On Feb 12, 9:51 am, "Feisty"  wrote:

>  wrote in message

> news:adbb20e7-191b-46e6-bcd9-1b96c954c932@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> > What a nice global picket and now the question is what to do next
> > I think the most important thing we need to learn how to handle is the
> > infiltration of criminals into our group.  I heard many picketers say
> > that having been encouraged to read both sides that they found
> > religious freedom watch a little troubling.  This I can understand
> > because afamilys many people commented that there must be some truth
> > to it, or someone would be sued.

> > Everyone knows my opinion on double agents - Arnie Lerma, Tory
> > Christman, Chuck "The Pisser" Beatty, and the truly evil piece of shit
> > John Peeler.  The fact that many of you believe them proves how
> > effective they are at their jobs.  I just ask all of you to be careful
> > around these four.

> snip

> Most people develop a patterned response to conflict based on their life
> history and history with others. This response may fit some situations well,
> but may be ineffective or destructive in other circumstances.

>  Awareness of styles helps people recognize that they have choices in how to
> respond to conflict. Since each style has a preferred way of interacting
> with others in conflict, style awareness also can greatly assist people in
> meeting the needs of those they live and work with.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_style_inventory

> Persuasion is a form of social influence. It is the process of guiding
> people toward the adoption of an idea, attitude, or action by rational and
> symbolic (though not always logical) means. It is strategy of
> problem-solving relying on "appeals" rather than force.

> Manipulation is taking persuasion to an extreme, where the one party
> benefits at the other's cost.

> According to Robert Cialdini in his book on persuasion, he defined six
> "weapons of influence":

> Reciprocation - People tend to return a favor. Thus, the pervasiveness of
> free samples in marketing.

> Commitment and Consistency - If people commit, verbally or in writing, to an
> idea or goal, they are more likely to honor that commitment. Even if the
> original incentive or motivation is removed after they have already agreed,
> they will continue to honor the agreement.

> Social Proof - People will do things that they see other people are doing.
> For example, in one experiment, one or more confederates would look up into
> the sky; bystanders would then look up into the sky to see what they were
> seeing. At one point this experiment aborted, as so many people were looking
> up that they stopped traffic

> Authority - People will tend to obey authority figures, even if they are
> asked to perform objectionable acts. Cialdini cites incidents, such as the
> Milgram experiments in the early 1960s and the My Lai massacre

> Liking - People are easily persuaded by other people that they like.
> Cialdini cites the marketing of Tupperware in what might now be called viral
> marketing. People were more likely to buy if they liked the person selling
> it to them. Some of the many biases favoring more attractive people are
> discussed.

> Scarcity - Perceived scarcity will generate demand

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persuasion

> Perhaps most generally, NLP aims to increase behavioral choice by the
> manipulation of personal state, belief and internal representation either by
> a practitioner/trainer, or by self-application. Some of the main ideas, many
> imported from existing counseling or psychotherapy practice, include:

>   a.. Problems, desires, feelings, beliefs and outcomes are represented in
> visual, auditory and kinesthetic (and sometimes gustatory, olfactory)
> systems.[4]
>   b.. When communicating with someone, rather than just listening to and
> responding to what a person said, NLP aims to also respond to the structure
> of verbal communication and non-verbal cues.[4]
>   c.. The NLP meta model questioning is intended to clarify what has been
> left out or distorted in communication.[2]
>   d.. The NLP Milton model uses non-specific and metaphoric language
> allowing the listener to fill in the gaps, making their own meaning from
> what is being said, finding their own solutions and inner resources,
> challenging and reframing irrational beliefs.[5]
>   e.. The actual state someone is in when setting a goal or choosing a
> course of action is also considered important. A number of techniques in NLP
> aim to enhance states by anchoring resourceful states associated with
> personal experience or model states by imitating others.[6]
> While the title Neuro-linguistic programming implies a basis in neurology,
> computer science, and linguistics and it is often marketed as a new science,
> skeptics contend NLP is an "unproven psychological theory or
> treatment"[10][7] and one of the many pseudoscientific[11] or New Age forms
> of psychotherapy that have emerged in mental health practice.[1

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming

thats good, very good.... thank you very much Feisty.
here are some  additional interesting details

 Scientology has claimed for 13 years that "Arnie Lerma engages in
hate marchs" - that is, I walked back and forth wih a picket sign on
occassion, but any organization that characterizes constitutionally
protected activity as "hate" is by its very nature making an admission
to opposing the United States Constitution.

Germany's constitution, written by the Allies at the end of WWII,
contains a provision for an office "The Office for Protection of the
Constitution" That office has determined officially that Scientology
as an organization is a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.

I agree.

From ARS 2 days before the demonstrations

On Feb 8, 3:02 pm, jerald  wrote:

> I think the turnout is going to be large and that scientology will try
> to get the police to enforce the LMT injunction. However since
> scientology has stated to the press that anno is behind this does the
> injunction even apply here?
> Seems to me thats something someone should ask the police before
> Sunday. It shouldn't apply in this case at all. Different ideas and
> different group of people.
> jerald
Arnie wrote:

Just make sure you don't accept a hundred dollar bill
from someone named in that injunction who was dumb
enough to give him this trojan horse in a public place,
with 150+ scientology security cameras pointed at the public,
as happened to videographer, Sean Lonsdale...

That trojan horse was used as the excuse to depose him,
in what turned out to be a hilarious deposition
http://www.lermanet.com/persecution/lonsdale.htm

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comment - and what happened!?:

From Email last night

Hey!
Things went real well in CW today.

(a person named on that LMT injunction) drove by in a new silver SUV
and didn't seem to recognize me.

was spotted walking around trying to talk with Anon later and that
didn't last 5 min. before some of the Anon told them "F**K OFF"

last seen scurrying back to their vehicle!

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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is there anyone who doubts whether scientology wanted an excuse to
depose anonymous? However, anticipating a repetition of a successful
action (They think we are so stupid) we made sure that Anonymous was
warned about what happened to Sean Lonsdale...so that it would NOT
HAPPEN AGAIN.

Was it Selfishness or complicity?
_________________
Who is Arnie Lerma?

Gore Vidal on meeting L Ron Hubbard
"He exuded evil, malice, and stupidity"