THE SUPREME COURT (IRELAND) Johnston v Church of Scientology and Others 2000/232 & 2001/248 TRANSCRIPT JUDGES: Keane CJ, Murphy, Murray JJ. DATE: 7 November 2001 Ex-tempore Judgment Keane CJ In this case there are two appeals before the court, one arising out of an order by Mr Justice Johnson refusing to order further and better particulars of matters referred to in the plaintiff's statement of claim, and the other an appeal from an order of Mr Justice Butler in which he declined to accede to an application on behalf of the defendants to strike out the plaintiff's claim because of what was alleged to be a failure to comply with orders for discovery previously made. I propose to deal firstly with the matter of particulars and it is to be said at once that it is most unfortunate in my view and I allocate no particular responsibility to anyone at this stage, except to say merely both parties have contributed to it and in perhaps varying degrees, that this action should still be pursuing such a laborious and protracted course through the High Court and in this Court because it relates to matters which happened and there does not appear to be any serious dispute about this, as far back as January 1992 ie, coming up to close to ten years ago. Although the proceedings were commenced by the plaintiff by plenary summons in December 1995, nearly six years ago at this stage, it has still to come to trial. That would be deplorable but perhaps explicable in some cases. In a case such as the present where the issues between the parties are in one way relatively straightforward issues -they raise somewhat novel principles of law - but they certainly have not required, in my view, the immense panoply of particulars, discovery and so on and the disputes between the parties and the interlocutory applications and the appeals to this court which appear to have resulted but and have only resulted in the generation of the vast amount of documentation of a quite disproportionate amount in relation to this case, immense delay and one can only suppose also greatly increased costs. At the end of the day, it is the actual delay in the resolution of the issues which from nobody's point of view can ever be conducive to the interests of justice which is much to be regretted. I have indicated that the legal issues are unusual both in this court and in the High Court and it is not right at this stage to say too much about them lest one should in any sense appear to be prejudging the issues between the parties which should be exclusively a matter for the High Court judge when the case does eventually come, one hopes in the relatively near future, to a hearing. There are certain matters which are obviously not in dispute between the parties. It is not in dispute that the plaintiff is a business woman in her mid thirties who came into contact with the defendants who are the Church of Scientology and persons associated with the Church of Scientology. Obviously, again it would be, I take it, common case between the parties that whatever the relationship between the plaintiff and the Church of Scientology may have been, ultimately it proved to be a fractious relationship and one that ultimately that has led to these proceedings. In these proceedings and in the statement of claim the plaintiff made certain allegations against the defendants. She said that in or about the month of January 1992 the third named defendant ie, a Mr Gerard Ryan, who is one of the persons concerned in the Church of Scientology he represented to her that certain courses would greatly improve the plaintiffs sense of well being and that he further represented to her that she should have a personality test and exerted pressure on the plaintiff to have such a test. There is a reference there to the plaintiff at that time being in an emotionally liable condition that is corrected later to an emotionally labile condition. There is then an averment that she submitted to a personality test, the evaluator of which was the second named defendant in these proceedings, a Mr Keane. Having evaluated the plaintiffs personality over a period of several months the second and third named defendants, pressurised the plaintiff into subscribing for what was described as a ³purification rundown and training routine² at a cost of L1,200.00 and that notwithstanding the plaintiff's protests that she did not wish to engage in such a course and did not have the resources to do so the second and third named defendant brought such pressure to bear upon her that she felt obliged to subscribe for such a course and to pay the said monies to the defendants. There is then an allegation that she paid certain sums and then there is a further allegation that in the months following the completion of that particular procedure the defendants, their servants or agents exerted great pressure upon the plaintiff to subscribe for other courses conducted by the defendants and to pay over monies to the defendants and there are then references to monies having been paid over and a reference to the plaintiff having expressed reluctance to engage in these courses or pay monies or become involved in the Church of Scientology to the defendants having brought what is described as great pressure upon the plaintiff who said that in particular the representative of the defendant would telephone the plaintiff regularly at home and at work and would accuse her of being selfish, and thinking only of herself and one recruiter acting on behalf of the first named defendant sought to persuade the plaintiff to sell her business in Dublin and to use the proceeds of that sale to involve herself further into the Church of Scientology. There are allegations as to pressurising the plaintiff into subscribing for a particular course on a ship in the Caribbean and to pay a deposit. The plaintiff sets out in her statement of claim particulars amounting to just under L2,000.00 and then having given credit for monies repaid so that she has paid out a sum of L1,648.06 and she says that in or about the 1st May 1994 she resolved to leave the Church of Scientology. She communicated her decision to the defendants and requested that they would not bring pressure to bear on her to change her mind but the defendants brought great pressure (I am still quoting the statement of claim), to bear upon the plaintiff to change her mind and harass the plaintiff by constantly phoning her at her work and at home. The fourth named defendant wrote a number of times to the plaintiff in a manner which the plaintiff found distressing and threatening. It goes on to say that by reason of the matters aforesaid, the defendants their servants or agents had been guilty of exerting undue influence over the plaintiff, had been guilty of a conspiracy with each other and others to extract monies from the plaintiff and to be guilty of misrepresentation and have breached the plaintiff's constitutional rights to bodily integrity, mental and psychological integrity and personal privacy. The statement of claim goes on to give particulars of injuries which she claimed she suffered and it is unnecessary for the purpose of this judgment to go into detail other than to say there are fairly detailed particulars given them of various physical and mental or psychological disturbances or traumas which the plaintiff says that she suffered, of the effect that this had on her business life, on her social, domestic, recreational life and so on, her relationship with her family and friends. All of these injuries she claims are the consequences of the activities of the defendants in relation to the plaintiff referred to at an earlier stage in the statement of claim and there is a separate and quite independent claim for libel concerning a letter dated 31st October 1994 addressed to a journalist with Independent Newspapers. With one exception nothing arises out of that insofar as this motion for particulars is concerned. That in summary is the plaintiff's claim. In the relief that she seeks, she seeks a declaration that the payments made to her ought to be set aside as having been procured by the undue influence of the first named defendants and an order to repay that. That of course is a plea and raises as a cause of action which is well known to the law and established for many centuries indeed that persons who can be shown to have paid over money or transferred property because of undue influence exerted upon them by persons who occupy a particular relationship such as a person in a religious capacity can be ordered to repay the money or property to the plaintiff if indeed it has been shown to have been procured by the undue influence of the person occupying a particular relationship to the person concerned which in the view of the law would give rise to a presumption of undue influence. So far as that is concerned, whether it succeeds of not of course it is entirely a different matter, but that is a plea and it raises a cause of action which is known to the law. The claim for damages for conspiracy, misrepresentation and a breach of the plaintiff's constitutional rights raises matters which are in quite a different category because the breach in particular of the plaintiff's constitutional rights to bodily integrity and to privacy are alleged to arise from the various instances of pressure and it may be that the plaintiff would say unfair and undue pressure brought to bear in the course of all of these events which she says and this is her case, had given rise to all the physical and psychological and other consequences for her life which she sets out in the statement of claim. That is clearly a somewhat unusual case. That is not to say that the case will not succeed. It is simply to say that it is certainly a case, and indeed certainly conceded by Mr Cush to be an unusual case but one which he says and one can understand this that his client wishes to bring on to hearing and to have decided by the High Court and of course that is her privilege so to do. However, I am satisfied that at least in some respects the defendant, and I bear in mind that the defendants left matters go for quite a long time before they raised any particulars or raised the particulars which they now say they are entitled to but in relation to some aspects of the statement of claim, I am satisfied that the defendants are entitled to further particulars at this stage as to what precisely is being alleged against them. In relation to paragraph 6 there is the first reference to pressure being exerted upon the plaintiff to have such tests. Then when we come to paragraph 7 there are references to the defendants pressurising the plaintiff and then bringing further pressure to bear upon the plaintiff so that she felt obliged to pay the monies to the defendants. Further in paragraph 9 reference is made to the defendants having exerted great pressure upon the plaintiff to subscribe for other courses. In relation to those, in my view the defendants are entitled to particulars indicating what form this pressure is alleged to have taken. How the plaintiff responds to that is, of course, a matter for her, but it seems to me reasonable that the plaintiff should be asked to indicate what form that pressure is alleged to have taken, because it is clearly at the heart of the plaintiff's case. That, I emphasis, does not necessarily mean that the plaintiff is obliged to give particulars down to the day, the minute or whatever, that a particular phone call was made to her or a particular letter written to her. If you come to paragraph 9 of the statement of claim you see the precise allegation of pressure being particularised where it says in particular representatives of the defendants would telephone the plaintiff regularly at work and at home and have accused her of being selfish and of thinking only of herself. There the defendants in my view know the case that is being made against then in relation to that and it does not really bring matters particularly further to say that this happened on the 1st November 1990 or on the 3rd February 1991. It is an allegation of a course of conduct pursued over a particular period of time in the form of telephone calls to her work or to her home. In the earlier part of the statement of claim where that same phrase is used, exerting great pressure or bringing pressure to bear upon the plaintiff, it is not particularised in that fashion and in my view the defendants are entitled to have particulars given as to what is the nature of the pressure in those circumstances alleged to have been brought against the plaintiff. In other respects, I am satisfied that the defendants in the particulars they have sought are really seeking matters which really only relate to evidence which will have to be given by the plaintiff at the trial, if she is to make out in evidence the pleas she has brought against the defendants. To that extent and to that extent only, in relation to the motion for particulars I would allow the appeal and substitute for the order of the High Court judge an order requiring the plaintiff to furnish those particulars which I have indicated within two weeks from today's date, because it would be a matter of great concern that the furnishing of those particulars should not further or in any way delay the hearing of this action, which the court has been informed should be heard early next term. That brings me to the second motion brought by the defendants to strike out the plaintiff's action on the grounds that she had failed to comply with an order for discovery made in the High Court. The order for discovery made in the High Court which led to the defendants bringing this motion which was unsuccessful in the High Court was an order made by consent. While it was made by consent there is not the slightest doubt and there can be hardly any controversy that it was an order made in an extremely wide ranging form. It was made in a form which embraced an enormous number of categories of different documents set out in the schedule to the notice of motion on which it was based. It should have been obvious from the very nature of the notice of motion and the schedule to the notice of motion that in respect of many aspects the plaintiff might well be saying that I simply had not got these documents or I have only very limited documents because it is enormously wide ranging and requires the plaintiff effectively to discover documents relating to her personal life, to her business life, to her social life and it covers a huge quantity of correspondence between a vast number of people. It covers documents relating to other religious movements and I am only just indicating parts of it. It includes all medical and counselling records on a huge range of matters, all records, notes in relation to any abortions obtained by the plaintiff because the defendants were apparently aware that she had had two abortions, medical records, notes, referrals and similarly correspondence relating to at least the last five years of all diaries maintained by the plaintiff and so on. I do not find it necessary to particularise these. It is sufficient to say that when the trial judge came to deal with the notice of motion requiring that the plaintiff's claim should be struck out because of failure to comply with this order for discovery he quite rightly in my view approached the case on the basis that it was an extraordinarily wide ranging order for discovery and in applying the principles that he did and correctly, in my opinion, he quite rightly took into account the nature of the order of discovery made. The court has a jurisdiction and there is no issue about this, to strike out proceedings or to strike out a defence filed by a defendant where it is satisfied that the extent of the non-compliance with the court's order is such that it is not possible to have a fair trial as a result and of course that may also arise where it appears from the affidavit that some particular documents or some category of documents have been in fact destroyed by the party concerned, whether innocently or whether deliberately in order to interfere with the further conduct of the case. There is no doubt that the courts enjoy such a jurisdiction but the law is stated as follows by Mr Justice Barrington speaking for this court in the case of Murphy -v- Donoghue Limited in which he said: ³undoubtedly cases may exist where one party may not be able to get a fair trial because of the other party's wilful refusal to comply with an order for discovery. In such cases it may be necessary to dismiss the plaintiff's claim or to strike out the defendants' defence and such cases will be extreme cases². As Chief Justice Hamilton put it in Mercantile Credit Company -v- Heelan, the powers of the courts to secure compliance with the Rules and Orders of the court relating to discovery should not be exercised so as to punish a party for failure to comply with an order for discovery within the time limited by the order. Applying those principles and it is not disputed by Mr Trainor on behalf of the defendants that they are the principles which must be applied, we undoubtedly find that - I take the categories as they have been set out quite helpfully towards the end of today's hearing by Mr Trainor's solicitors in a schedule - there are documents relating to abortions. There are documents relating to these two abortions that she had. She has not said that she has declined to produce them because they are not relevant although it must be said that their relevance to the issues in this case appear to me to be very limited insofar as they arise at all. But she says she has not got any such documents and we are in no position to say in this court that there were any such documents. Similarly in relation to the whole matter of financial records, which covers the next four items in this schedule the plaintiff has made voluminous discovery and in fact at one stage it appeared to be indicated that she was in a sense ³overdoing the discovery², and producing material which could not possibly be relevant. She has undoubtedly disclosed a very considerable number of financial statements and she says that this is all that she has. When a plaintiff deposes to that effect this court has repeatedly said that is a compliance with an order for discovery. It may come as a surprise and the other party may well say, well I think he/she must have other documents, they may say that, but if the plaintiff says on oath that he or she has not got the documents then that is a compliance with the order for discovery and the person can have no complaint. If, of course, the affidavit of discovery shows that the party making it misunderstands what they are supposed to produce or if it is clear from the very terms of the affidavit that there are other documents which are still not being discovered, that is a different matter and the court may have to make an order for further and better discovery because of the manner in which the plaintiff has approached it. Here the plaintiff has disclosed a considerable volume of business matters and she says that is all she has and that in my view is the end of that matter. She also says that she had personal diaries but she discarded them at the end of each year as that particular year came to an end and that she simply does not have them any more and what she has not got, she cannot produce. I do not in any way equate this to the situations which arose in English decisions to which we were referred by Mr Trainor, the authority and the common sense and the good law of which I would not for a moment dispute, but which related to documents which in each case were crucial to the action concerned and which were no longer in existence or which in one instance were brought to light as a result of the motion being brought to strike out the proceedings or the defence because of the failure to produce them. This is a wholly different situation. If the business diaries which it is alleged she should have produced or the personal diaries which it is alleged she wrongfully disposed of contained any material relevant to this case and relevant to these proceedings that would be one situation but nobody is in a position to say one way or the other that it would have advanced the plaintiff's case on the one hand or advance the defendants' case on the other hand to the slightest degree. The fact is that the plaintiff has said ³these diaries are gone² and it must be taken by implication that the plaintiff was at the end of the day only obliged to disclose material which is relevant and that applies even in an extraordinarily wide ranging order for discovery as was made by consent in the present case. That is where the matter stands similarly in relation to the transcript of a speech which the plaintiff is said to have given at some meeting or lecture or discussion that took place in Clonliffe College, the defendants apparently have a transcript of that speech. It is very difficult to see how their case is advanced in the slightest degree by having any further documents in relation to it or indeed whether any such documents exist at all. Mr Trainor clearly acknowledged that by implication he had some problem to this extent that he was inviting the court both in the High Court and this Court, to take a very extreme step, dismissing an entire proceeding, and conscious as he was of that he did indicate on more than one occasion that of course there was an alternative, namely that this court should substitute for the order of the High Court an order simply requiring the defendant to make further and better discovery of specific items and these are the ones which he has indicated in this schedule which he has put before us today. We have to deal with this motion as it came before the High Court. It came before the High Court in this form. In the course of an exchange between Mr Trainor and the High Court judge, it was made perfectly clear that Mr Trainor was asking the High Court judge to strike the proceedings out because of what he claimed was the inadequate, unsatisfactory discovery and as he put it the actual destruction of relevant documents and the concealment by the plaintiff of relevant documents. He quite rightly said when the High Court judge asked him if that was the stance he was adopting, he quite rightly said well there is not any need for an order for further and better discovery, because the order has been made and we could hardly imagine an order in more wide ranging terms. So one could well see why he felt it necessary to concede that much. He was asking for a very extreme remedy of striking out the entire proceedings of the plaintiff because of what was alleged to be inadequate discovery and for the reasons I have indicated and applying I am satisfied perfect and correct principles the High Court judge declined to accede to that application. I think he was correct in so doing and I think at this stage it is too late in the day, even if it could be done, for this court to be making an order of a different nature from that which the High Court judge was invited to make and which indeed was the whole subject matter of the notice of motion brought before him. To conclude on the motion for discovery aspect, I would dismiss the appeal on that aspect and affirm the order of the High Court. Appeal dismissed. ------------------- HIGH COURT Mary Johnston, Plaintiff, v Church of Scientology Mission of Dublin Limited, John Keane, Tom Cunningham and Gerard Ryan, Defendants [2001] 1 IR 682 [1995 No 9640P and SC No 145 of 1999] 30 APRIL 1999 SUPREME COURT 27 FEBRUARY 2001 Practice ­Discovery ­ Documents ­ Sacerdotal privilege ­ Possession, custody or power ­ Documents in custody of associate outside jurisdiction ­ Counselling notes arising from spiritual practices ­ Whether defendants could claim sacerdotal privilege in relation to notes ­ Whether plaintiff could waive any privilege arising out of confidentiality of counselling ­ Whether public interest in preserving confidentiality of notes greater than public interest in disclosure of all relevant evidence ­ Whether plaintiff bound by contract to preserve confidentiality ­ Whether documents held by associate outside jurisdiction within power of defendant. The plaintiff was suing the defendant for damages for conspiracy, misrepresentation, breach of constitutional rights, libel, and for the return of monies paid by her to the first defendant. An order for discovery in general terms was made against the defendants, who claimed sacerdotal privilege in respect of certain ³counselling notes². Those notes arose from spiritual practices of the first defendant, known as ³auditing² and ³training², which were conducted on a one-to-one basis. Held by the High Court (Geoghegan J), in ordering discovery and inspection of those documents in respect of which privilege was claimed, 1, that the defendant was not entitled to rely on the pre-reformation common law protecting the seal of the confessional even against waiver by the penitent. Cook v Carroll [1945] IR 515 considered. 2. That, while there could be situations where a privilege might arise in relation to counselling by a priest or minister, or in relation to secular counselling, any such privilege might always be waived by the person being counselled. Cook v Carroll [1945] IR 515 distinguished; ER v JR [1981] ILRM 125 followed. 3. That the plaintiff was not precluded by the terms of her contract with the first defendant from seeking discovery of the documents concerning herself where the plaintiff was repudiating that contract in the substantive proceedings. 4. That documents in the possession of another branch of the same institution in the United Kingdom were procurable and must be discovered. The defendants appealed to the Supreme Court in relation to the documents held in the United Kingdom, submitting that they were not within their possession, custody or power. Held by the Supreme Court (Denham, Murphy and Murray JJ), in allowing the defendants' appeal, 1, that, subject to rare exceptions in the exercise of discretion in the circumstances of particular cases, to be discovered, a document must be in the possession, custody or power of a party. [2001] 1 IR 682 at 683 Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111; Quinlivan v Conroy [1999] 1 IR 271 approved. Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay P, 26th May, 1977), Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barron J, 29th April, 1986) considered. 2. That, since the documents in question had not been created by, nor were they being held as agent for the first defendant, the first defendant had no legal right to obtain them, and they were therefore not in the power of the first defendant and were not discoverable. Cases mentioned in this report:- Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111. Bula Ltd (in receivership) v Tara Mines Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Murphy J, 11th January, 1991). Cook v Carroll [1945] IR 515. ER v JR [1981] ILRM 125. Horgan v Murray (No 2) [1999] 1 ILRM 257. Irish Nationwide Building Society v Charlton (Unreported, Supreme Court, 5th March, 1997). Lonhro Ltd v Shell Petroleum [1980] QB 358; [1980] 2 WLR 367, CA; [1980] 1 WLR 627, HL (E). Murphy v Dublin Corporation [1972] IR 215; (1972) 107 ILTR 65. Murphy v J Donohoe Ltd [1996] 1 IR 123; [1996] 1 ILRM 481. Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay P, 26th May, 1977). Pais v Pais [1970] 3 WLR 830; [1970] 3 All ER 491. Phelan v Goodman [2000] 2 IR 577; [2000] 2 ILRM 378. Quinlivan v Conroy [1999] 1 IR 271. Smurfit Paribas Bank Ltd v AAB Export Finance Ltd [1990] 1 IR 469; [1990] ILRM 588. Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barron J, 29th April, 1986). Motion on notice. The facts have been summarised in the headnote and are more fully set out in the judgment of Geoghegan J, infra. The plaintiff issued a plenary summons on the 7th December, 1995, claiming damages for conspiracy, misrepresentation, breach of her constitutional rights, libel, and for the return of monies paid by her to the first defendant. On the 11th April, 1997, the Master of the High Court made an order and cross-order for discovery in general terms. The defendants [2001] 1 IR 682 at 684 filed an affidavit of discovery on die 2nd September, 1997, in which they claimed privilege in respect of certain documents. By notice of motion dated the 3rd July, 1998, the plaintiff sought, inter alia, to challenge the claim of privilege. The orders sought in this notice of motion are more fully set out in the judgment of Geoghegan J, infra. The matter was heard by the High Court (Geoghegan J) on the 23rd and 24th February, 1999. John Hennessy for the plaintiff. David O'Neill for the defendants. Cur adv vult 30 April 1999 GEOGHEGAN J This is a motion for further and better discovery brought by the plaintiff against the defendants. The notice of motion seeks:- * 1. An order directing the defendants to make available for inspection the originals of all the documents discovered and disclosed by the defendants in their affidavit of discovery. * 2. An order directing the defendants to make further and better discovery of certain documentation referred to in paras 9 and 10 in the affidavit of Dympna Murphy, solicitor for the plaintiff. * 3. An order directing the defendants to disclose to the plaintiff those documents in respect of which the defendants have maintained a claim of sacerdotal privilege. * 4. An order directing the defendants to list each and every document in respect of which a claim for legal professional privilege is maintained. For all practical purposes the important issue raised at the hearing of this motion was the question of sacerdotal privilege in relation to what are described in the affidavit of discovery as ³counselling notes². These counselling notes arise in the main from a so-called ³spiritual practice² of Scientology known as ³auditing², though partly also, I think, from another ³spiritual practice² known as ³training². The fourth defendant, Gerard Ryan, in his affidavit of the 27th January, 1999, says that auditing and to a large extent training are conducted on a one to one basis and he draws a comparison between the relationship that would exist in other religions between minister and parishioner with what he describes as ³the one to one [2001] 1 IR 682 at 685 confidential communication between the parishioner and his or her auditor² in Scientology. More particularly, a claim is being made that for an auditor for instance to disclose any of the communications he had with die other person even if that person is waiving any privilege in relation to them would be so fundamentally contrary to the beliefs and tenets of the Church of Scientology as to render him liable to eternal damnation analogous to the claims made by the Roman Catholic Church in relation to priests breaking the seal of confession. As I understand it, the defendants in resisting disclosure of the counselling notes are making two other alternative arguments. They are saying that such confidentiality attaches to them that the court must weigh up the public interest in the preservation of such confidentiality against the normal public interest in the disclosure of all relevant evidence and must in all the circumstances come down in favour of preservation of the confidentiality and as a second alternative the defendants are arguing that the plaintiff is bound by written contract to preserve the confidentiality. These last two alternative arguments to some extent overlap. There are also other issues in this motion of less importance and with which I will deal in due course. I start with sacerdotal privilege. I believe that there are only two decided Irish cases which can give me any worthwhile guidance in this connection. They are Cook v Carroll [1945] IR 515 and ER v JR [1981] ILRM 125. A great deal of what Gavan Duffy J had to say in Cook v Carroll is obiter dicta. The head-note gives an accurate summary of what the learned judge actually decided. He held that communications made in confidence to a parish priest, in a private consultation between him and certain of his parishioners, were privileged and that such privilege could not be waived by a party thereto without the consent of the priest. In ER v JR, Carroll J held that communications made to a minister of religion who was acting as a marriage counsellor are privileged in that the four conditions set out by Gavan Duffy J in Cook v Carroll were present. She followed, however, the English case of Pais v Pais [1970] 3 WLR 830, in holding that the privilege was that of the spouses and not of the minister for religion and might be waived by mutual consent of the spouses. This decision was in one sense an extension of the principle laid down by Gavan Duffy J in that it went beyond the relationship of parish priest and parishioner but on the other hand it seems to repudiate the idea that the priest counsellor himself could have a privilege which he would have to waive. I think that the waters were muddied to some extent in Cook v Carroll [1945] IR 515, with all respect to Gavan Duffy J, by the references to the confessor penitent relationship in the sacrament of confession and by [2001] 1 IR 682 at 686 references also to the then existing article in the Constitution referring to the special position of the Roman Catholic Church. Gavan Duffy J appears to have been of the view that there were constitutional and legal effects arising out of the so-called special position of the Roman Catholic Church. However, in other decided cases the view was expressed that it had no such legal effect and that it was really nothing more than a statement of fact. It being a fact, then, as a matter of common sense and justice, it was reasonable for the courts to revive what Gavan Duffy J says was the pre-reformation common law protecting the seal of the confessional even against waiver by the penitent. However, that is merely an opinion I express because I do not think it arises in this case. I do not accept that the defendants can rely on an alleged analogy with the seal of confession. Neither in the affidavits nor in court and even though I requested it, was any evidence produced by way of theology manuals etc that it was part of the doctrines of the Church of Scientology that any disclosure of what transpired in auditing or training sessions led to some kind of eternal punishment. Furthermore, the whole question as to whether the Church of Scientology is a religion or not remains controversial throughout the world and it is not sensible to suggest that it can be determined by sundry decisions relating to tax. I think that the absolute unwaivable privilege which probably does attach in Irish common law to the priest penitent relationship in the confessional is sui generis and is not capable of development in the manner suggested. I do accept, as Carroll J accepted, that there can be situations where a privilege may arise in relation to counselling by a priest or minister but any such privilege may always be waived by the person being counselled and to that extent I am not prepared to follow the views expressed by Gavan Duffy J in relation to counselling by a parish priest of a parishioner. Indeed it is difficult to see why a relationship between a parish priest and parishioner is any different than a relationship between a priest or clergyman of any kind and a person coming from anywhere being counselled by him. Furthermore, although Carroll J left the question open, I would be inclined to think that in modern times when all kinds of secular counselling is available, and in particular marriage counselling, there may well be a privilege which the courts would uphold in some circumstances, but it would always be capable of waiver unilaterally by the persons being counselled. In this case the plaintiff waives any privilege alleged to exist, and in these circumstances and for the reasons I have given I cannot uphold the plea of sacerdotal privilege. I now turn to the argument based on contract. The plaintiff undoubtedly signed a document dated the 11th September, 1993, and headed:- [2001] 1 IR 682 at 687 ³Church of Scientology Mission of Dublin (hereinafter referred to as 'The Church') Religious Services Enrolment Application / Agreement and General Release² Paragraph 7 of that document reads as follows:- ³In connection with the service, the Church may compile a folder containing its notations of my spiritual progress, known as a 'Pre-clear Folder' (PC Folder), as well as other ecclesiastical files containing notations regarding my spiritual progress. The contents of the folders are kept confidential from persons who lack the ecclesiastical authority to gain access to such documents, including the person who the files concern, and are subject to the priest-penitent privilege. I understand that as a condition of being accepted for participation in the Service, I am giving up any and all rights of ownership possession and control, copying and viewing of the PC Folder and other files concerning myself, both with respect to the files themselves and the information contained therein.² I am satisfied that a private contract inter partes cannot oust the jurisdiction of the court to order discovery of the document in which the contract is contained. ³Power to compel the attendance of witnesses and the production of evidence is an inherent part of the judicial power of Government of the State and is the ultimate safeguard of justice in the State.² (see Murphy v Corporation of Dublin [1972] IR 215 at p 233). This passage is quoted and relied upon by Finlay CJ in his Supreme Court judgment in Smurfit Paribas Bank Ltd v AAB Export Finance Ltd [1990] 1 IR 469 at p 475. I would at any rate interpret the contractual obligation as an obligation not to make a voluntary disclosure. It does not cover an obligation not to make a compulsory disclosure. Even if there are cases where a court might refuse to make an order for discovery because of particular and special contractual terms between the parties (which I do not necessarily accept) I do not believe that this would ever be done in a case where effectively the contract is being repudiated in the action itself. There are a number of causes of action in the statement of claim but fundamentally the plaintiff is claiming that she was ³brainwashed² in circumstances where she was not a genuine free agent. This allegation of course may prove entirely false but that is beside the point. I can only look at the statement of claim as it stands. For all these reasons therefore I am satisfied that the contractual term relied on cannot prevent an order for discovery being made in relation to the documents referred to in that contract term. Finally, I reject also the argument that there is a greater public interest in upholding the confidentiality than the public interest in relevant evidence being produced in court for the purposes of the administration of justice. If the plaintiff's allegations are correct then she was improperly and [2001] 1 IR 682 at 688 illegally placed in situations where moral or legal obligations of confidentiality arose or where there was an apparent relationship of confidentiality. In an action of this kind disclosure is in my view in the greater public interest. All the documents therefore which have been disclosed as relevant but the production of which is being withheld on alleged grounds of privilege or confidentiality must be disclosed and produced on request. Of course there is another argument for non-disclosure being made. It is suggested that in the case of some of the documents which would be material, they are no longer in the possession or procurement of the defendants in that they have been sent to branches of the Church of Scientology in the United Kingdom. I do not find it credible that these documents are not procurable and I think it likely that this is being used as a method of defeating discovery in the Irish courts. It was the Mission of Dublin in the Church of Scientology which the plaintiff joined and any documents prepared in connection with her membership would seem to be to be clearly in the possession and ownership of one or more of the defendants. The argument has been made on behalf of the defendants that even if it were true that on request to England, documents would be returned, this does not mean that they are within the procurement of the defendants within the meaning of the Rules of the Superior Courts. I accept that proposition in circumstances where the requesting party and the retaining party have no institutional link with each other and are fully at arms length with each other. In such a case the test is whether the documents could be recovered by action and not whether as a matter of probability they would be voluntarily handed over on a request, but I do not accept that that is the position where two branches of the same institution are involved. There would seem to be strong prima facie evidence here that any documents relating to the plaintiff and in the possession of an English branch of the Church of Scientology are being held by the English branch as agents for the defendants or one or other of them. I will therefore direct that the documents which come within this category must be procured by the first defendant, and included in a supplemental affidavit of discovery if not already discovered and must be produced for inspection to the plaintiff if requested, and the plaintiff must be given copies thereof. Some of the other discovery sought by the plaintiff seems to me to be excessive. However, I am prepared to make an order in the terms of para 2 of the notice of motion, that is to say, an order directing the defendants to make further and better discovery of the documentation described in paras 9 and 10 in the affidavit of Dympna Murphy but limited to such of the documents as are mentioned in those paragraphs as refer to the plaintiff and which are not fully and adequately discovered already. Otherwise I will make all the orders as set out in the notice of motion of the 3rd July, 1998. [2001] 1 IR 682 at 689 With reference to the documents now in England, it is worth noting what the fourth defendant swore in his affidavit of discovery of the 30th July, 1997, in paragraph 3. He said the following:- ³The counselling notes were last in my possession, power or procurement in 1995. At that time the documents were transmitted by me to the Church of Scientology at East Grinstead, Sussex in the United Kingdom. I am now making arrangements for this documentation to be returned to the Dublin Mission.² This clearly re-enforces my view that those documents are within the procurement of the defendants. The defendants appealed to the Supreme Court by notice of appeal dated the 20th December, 2000. The appeal was heard by the Supreme Court (Denham, Murphy and Murray JJ) on the 16th January, 2001 James Connolly SC (with him David O'Neill) for the defendants. John Hennessy (with him Michael Cush SC) for the plaintiff. Cur adv vult 27 February 2001 DENHAM J 1. Proceedings This is an appeal by the defendants from a reserved judgment of the High Court of the 30th April, 1999, and order dated the 4th June, 1999. The plaintiff instituted an action against the defendants in 1995 in which she seeks, inter alia, damages for conspiracy, misrepresentation and breach of her constitutional rights, damages for libel, a declaration that the payments made by the plaintiff to the first defendant, its servants or agents, in the sum of £1,915.45 ought to be set aside as having been procured by the undue influence of the first defendant, its servants or agents and an order directing the first defendant, its servants or agents, to repay to the plaintiff the sum of £1,648.06 being the balance of the said sum of £1,915.45 due and owing to the plaintiff. The plaintiff brought a motion for [2001] 1 IR 682 at 690 further and better discovery against the defendants. On the hearing of the motion before the High Court, the main issue raised was that of sacerdotal privilege in relation to counselling notes. The defendants claimed that there should not be disclosure of the documents on the basis of sacerdotal privilege. The High Court rejected this claim. The issue of sacerdotal privilege has not been appealed and is not an issue before this court. There were other issues before the High Court relating to the nondisclosure of documents. It was submitted that the documents were in the procurement of the defendants. It is the issue of the possession, custody or power of documents which is at the kernel of this appeal. 2. The High Court The High Court (Geoghegan J) ordered that certain documents must be procured by the first defendant. He stated at p 688:- ³Of course there is another argument for non-disclosure being made. It is suggested that in the case of some of the documents which would be material, they are no longer in the possession or procurement of the defendants in that they have been sent to branches of the Church of Scientology in the United Kingdom. I do not find it credible that these documents are not procurable and I think it likely that this is being used as a method of defeating discovery in the Irish courts. It was the Mission of Dublin in the Church of Scientology which the plaintiff joined and any documents prepared in connection with her membership would seem to be clearly in the possession and ownership of one or more of the defendants. The argument has been made on behalf of the defendants that even if it were true that on request to England, documents would be returned, this does not mean that they are within the procurement of the defendants within the meaning of the Rules of the Superior Courts. I accept that proposition in circumstances where the requesting party and the retaining party have no institutional link with each other and are fully at arms length with each other. In such a case the test is whether the documents could be recovered by action and not whether as a matter of probability they would be voluntarily handed over on a request, but I do not accept that that is the position where two branches of the same institution are involved. There would seem to be strong prima facie evidence here that any documents relating to the plaintiff and in the possession of an English branch of the Church of Scientology are being held by the English branch as agents for the defendants or one or other of them. I will therefore direct that the documents which come within this category must be procured by the first defendant and included in a supplemental affidavit of discovery [2001] 1 IR 682 at 691 if not already discovered and must be produced for inspection to the plaintiff if requested, and the plaintiff must be given copies thereof. Some of the other discovery sought by the plaintiff seems to me to be excessive. However, I am prepared to make an order in the terms of para 2 of the notice of motion, that is to say, an order directing the defendants to make further and better discovery of the documentation described in paras 9 and 10 in the affidavit of Dympna Murphy but limited to such of the documents as are mentioned in those paragraphs as refer to the plaintiff and which are not fully and adequately discovered already. Otherwise I will make all the orders as set out in the notice of motion of the 3rd July, 1998. With reference to the documents now in England, it is worth noting what the fourth defendant swore in his affidavit of discovery of the 30th July, 1997, in paragraph 3. He said the following:- 'The counselling notes were last in my possession, power or procurement in 1995. At that time the documents were transmitted by me to the Church of Scientology at East Grinstead, Sussex in the United Kingdom. I am now making arrangements for this documentation to be returned to the Dublin Mission.' This clearly re-enforces my view that those documents are within the procurement of the defendants.² The order of the High Court dated the 4th June, 1999, stated:- ³It is ordered that within 6 weeks from the date hereof or from the date of lifting of the stay hereinafter granted whichever date shall be the later:- 1) the defendants do make available for inspection the originals of all documents being discovered and disclosed by the defendants pursuant to the order of the Master made on the 11th April, 1997; 2) the defendants do make further and better discovery of the documentation described in paras 9 and 10 of the said affidavit of Dympna Murphy but limited to such of the documents as are mentioned in those paragraphs as refer to the plaintiff and originals or copies of which would routinely be procurable at the request of the defendants and which are not fully and adequately discovered already; 3) the defendants do disclose to the plaintiff those documents in respect of which the defendants have maintained a claim of sacerdotal privilege; 4) the defendants do list each and every document in respect [of which] a claim to legal professional privilege is maintained.² [2001] 1 IR 682 at 692 3. Grounds of appeal Against that judgment and order, in an amended notice of appeal, the defendants have appealed on the following grounds:- ³1. That the documents referred to at para 2 of the learned trial judge's order would not in fact have been routinely procurable at the request of the defendants, even if appropriate searches had disclosed them still to be in existence. 2) That the learned trial judge erred in law, or upon a mixed question of law and fact, in finding at p 688 of his judgment that there were documents within the description set out in para 2 of his order held or created by non-parties as agents for the defendants. 3) That the learned trial judge erred in law so far as by para 2 of his order he directed the defendants to disclose any documents not within their possession, custody or power, but within their 'procurement,' and insofar as he required the defendants to disclose documents originals or copies of which would routinely be procurable at the request of the defendants.² 4. Issue The issue on this appeal is the disclosure of specific documents. The documents are those set out in the affidavit of Dympna Murphy, dated the 2nd July, 1998, at paragraph 10. The documents referred to in para 10A and 10B have been discovered. At issue are the documents mentioned in paras I0C, D, E and F, of which it is deposed:- ³Š I am instructed that there are specific documents which have not been discovered by the defendants and which are in their possession, control or power of procurement. The plaintiff can identify certain instances where there should be documents available. Š C. The plaintiff completed an IQ test, an aptitude test and an OCA test in or around the 1st April, 1994, at the first defendant's headquarters in St Hill, East Grinstead, England, which has not been discovered. D. The plaintiff completed a 'success story' in St Hill in or around the 1st April, 1994, which has not been discovered, although other 'success stories' have been discovered. E. A 'security check list' (a list of questions designed to gain information from members to ensure that they only have good intentions towards the organisation) which the plaintiff completed in St Hill in or around the 1st April, 1994, has not been discovered. F. The plaintiff signed an agreement with the Sea Org (an elite, dedicated group of staff members within the organisation who [2001] 1 IR 682 at 693 make a commitment of one billion years to work for the organisation) in or around the 4th April, 1994, in St Hill which has not been discovered.² In the affidavit of Gerard Ryan, made on behalf of the defendants, on the 19th October, 1998, in relation to the said paras 10, C, D, E and F, he deposed as follows :- ³C. The defendants do not have these documents. D. The defendants do not have these documents in their power or possession. E. The defendants do not have these documents in their power or possession. F. Again this is not in our possession or procurement.² 5. Submissions of the defendants Counsel for the defendants submitted that: (a) a party must disclose all relevant documents that either are or have been in his physical possession whether he has, or has previously had, a proprietary interest in them or not, or; (b) although they are not at present in his physical possession, are, or formerly were, under his control, either by his having, or having had, some, though not necessarily the entire, proprietary interest in them, or by his having, or having had, absolute control over them. Despite the reference by the learned trial judge to ³procurement,² he submitted that there is no such provision in the Rules of the Superior Courts. Counsel referred to Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111 at p 113 wherein it was stated that there were three distinct concepts: possession, custody and power, that the three concepts are to be considered disjunctively, that is any document to which any one of them applies must be listed. He submitted that a party is not obliged to take steps which would place documents in his power or possession at some stage in the future, but which are not in his power at present; Lonrho Ltd v Shell Petroleum [1980] QB 358. He submitted that usually documents in a party's power are those which are his property but which are not in his physical possession. Even where documents are not a party's property, and are not in his physical possession, they may still be liable to disclosure and production if he has absolute control over them. The only established category of documents liable to disclosure on this ground is documents belonging to a company which is under the unfettered control of and therefore the alter ego of a director who is a parry to the proceedings: Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barron J, 29th April, 1986), Horgan v Murray (No 2) [1999] 1 ILRM 257. He submitted that documents in the possession or custody of a subsidiary company are not necessarily in the power of its parent company: Lonrho Ltd v Shell [2001] 1 IR 682 at 694 Petroleum. He submitted that otherwise documents that are not a party's property are not in his power. Mere rights of inspection which a party may enjoy over other peoples' documents are usually conferred for a specific purpose, which does not include the defence of the inspecting party's personal interest. Counsel submitted that the two cases that appear to recognise a separate concept of procurement are Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay, P, 26th May, 1977) and Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barren J, 29th April, 1986). He submitted that if the sole basis of the decision in Northern Bank Finance v Charlton was that the directors of the non-party company from whom the documents were to be procured were agents of the plaintiff, the decision was incorrect and that documents of one company are not within the power of another, wholly unrelated company, merely because they share a director who has a right to inspect documents belonging to the first company in his capacity as its director; the decision may, however, be justified on the ground that in that case the non-party company appears to have been largely controlled by the plaintiff and, in such circumstances, its documents might be considered to have been in the power of the plaintiff. He referred to Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd and to Barron J, at p 3 of his judgment, where he held that documents in the possession of the defendant's parent company were within its ³procurement² in that if the defendant sought them it would probably be supplied with them, and it was admitted that the documents would be made available to the defendant for the purpose of the trial. He argued that Barron J appeared to think that ³procurement² was a distinct head of control for the purpose of the rules, additional to ³possession or power². However, no authority was cited other than Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay P, 26th May, 1977) and it was submitted there is no authority for it in the Rules. Counsel submitted that there were a number of High Court decisions inconsistent with Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay P, 26th May, 1977) and Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barron J, 29th April, 1986). He referred to Bula Ltd (in receivership) v Tara Mines Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Murphy J, 11th January, 1991); and Murphy v J Donohoe Ltd [1996] 1 IR 123, at p 129 cited with approval a passage from Halsbury's Laws of England (4th ed), vol 13, para 39. Counsel submitted that the decisions Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton and Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd appear to be inconsistent with the subsequent decision of the Supreme Court in Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111, where the court, referring to the terms used in the rules, held that a party was only obliged to disclose [2001] 1 IR 682 at 695 documents in his ³possession, custody or power². He referred to Quinlivan v Conroy [1999] 1 IR 271 where Kinlen J at p 275, referring to Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111 specifically noted that there was no such concept as ³procurement² in the Rules. Counsel referred to the observation in the Supreme Court of O'Flaherty J, in the same case at p 281, that even if the Assistant Commissioner who endorsed an extradition warrant was in some sense the ³agent² of the British authorities, this ³agency² did not confer on the Commissioner an enforceable legal right to obtain the documents from those parties, consequently they were not within his power. Counsel also referred to the judgment of this court in Irish Nationwide Building Society v Charlton (Unreported, Supreme Court, 5th March, 1997) where Murphy J referred to the plaintiffs having obtained copies of correspondence between their solicitors and solicitors for a non-party from the latter solicitors and added at p 7 of his judgment that: ³The plaintiffs clearly were not bound to obtain such documentation Š² In relation to the issue of agency, counsel submitted that a document held by the agent of a party is normally the party's property if it was created in the course of the agency and for the purpose thereof. He submitted that to this there are exceptions. For example, a contract of agency may confer the proprietary interest on the agent. Counsel submitted that in this case there is no corporate relationship at all between any of the English church corporations and any of die defendants. None of the English church corporations has any legal interest in the first defendant, their only link is that they are obliged to propagate the same belief system. Even if they had a corporate link, which they do not, only if the controller is the party does it have the documents of the entity controlled in its power, it can have no power over documents that have never been in its physical possession and that belong to the controller. A subsidiary's documents may be in the power of its parent, but the parent's documents cannot be in the power of the subsidiary. He submitted that the English church corporation are not agents of the defendants generally. They were not, specifically, agents of the defendants for the purpose of the creation or holding of any undisclosed document in this case and no such documents were created in the course or for the purpose of such an agency. There were documents created in the course of the relationship between the second, third and fourth defendants, on the one hand, and the plaintiff on the other, which are in the custody of the English church corporations, but no objection on the ground of this custody was ever taken to the disclosure or production of these documents, and they have now all been disclosed. Counsel submitted that a court may not go behind the oath of a party that he does not have certain documents in his possession, custody or [2001] 1 IR 682 at 696 power merely because, for whatever reason, it concludes mat it is probable that the parties have more documents. The court must be satisfied by specific evidence that the party's statement is incorrect, and he referred to Phelan v Goodman [2000] 2 IR 577. Counsel pointed out that the documents sought as being in the procurement of the defendants in that they or copies of them allegedly would be supplied by the English church corporation on request are an IQ test, an OCA test, an aptitude test, allegedly completed by the plaintiff in or about the 1st April, 1994, at East Grinstead, a success story allegedly completed by her in or about the same time, a security check-list allegedly prepared by her in or about the same time, a project to prepare sheet allegedly completed by the plaintiff at East Grinstead on or about the 4th April, 1994, pursuant to her intention to join the CSEA Organisation and an alleged agreement dated the 4th April, 1994, between the plaintiff and the CSEA Organisation. Counsel submitted that, contrary to the learned trial judge's findings in his judgment, none of these documents was ever in the possession of the defendants or was ever their property or indeed would such documents or copies of them be furnished to the defendants on request nor, if they exist, were they in any sense created in any capacity as agents of the defendants or any of them. Nor can the defendants state whether they ever existed, or control, or authorise, a search for them in England, or give an account of their whereabouts. Counsel submitted to the court that it was important that the scope of disclosure be limited. He argued that the main reason for such limitation is that, if a party fails to comply with an order for discovery, he or she may, if a defendant, have his or her defence struck out and be placed in the same position as if he or she had not defended. This may be acceptable so far as the documents are in his or her physical possession so he or she has direct control over them or has a proprietary interest which, if need be, the court can require him or her to enforce. However, it is not satisfactory for parties here, including the three personal defendants, who can have their defence struck out because they are in no position to comply directly with the order. He submitted that to preclude a defendant from defending proceedings because of the alleged default of some person over whom he has no control would be a denial of a defendant's constitutional right to fair procedure. He submitted that this is the reason why the fact that documents, or copies thereof, which are in the possession of a foreign entity of a similar description to a party resident within the jurisdiction which might be supplied in the ordinary course by the foreign entity to the resident party cannot place the resident party under an obligation to obtain the documents. If a foreign organ is under the control of the resident party the documents may well be within the party's power but otherwise it would be unfair and unconstitutional [2001] 1 IR 682 at 697 to make the party's right to defend an action depend on its ability to obtain documents from a person outside the jurisdiction whom he could in no way control. Counsel submitted that the point at issue is of great importance over and above the facts of this case. A rule that limits discovery to documents that are or have been the property of a party, or are or have been in his or her physical custody, or are under his absolute dominion where no other person has a legal right to interfere with disclosure, sets clear limits to the duty to disclose. A rule that requires a party to ³procure² documents that are not within these categories on the other hand is potentially boundless. It requires searches to be undertaken by people who are not under the control of the party for documents that the party has never seen and has no right to obtain. He referred to Lonrho Ltd v Shell Petroleum [1980] QB 358. Counsel submitted that the learned trial judge appears to have believed that it was argued for the defendants that there were relevant but undisclosed documents that were no longer in the possession of the defendants in that they had been sent to branches of the church in the United Kingdom. However, he submitted, no such argument was ever made and there are no such documents and there was no evidence before the court supporting the learned trial judge's conclusion that there were such documents. Further, he said, the English church bodies are not branches but separate corporate entities. Counsel submitted that the learned trial judge appears to have believed that documents were being shifted out of the jurisdiction to avoid discovery. He said there was no evidence before the court for this conclusion. He submitted that that is not so and that the existence of any documents, including in particular those included in the counselling folder, which had been transferred abroad, have been disclosed. 6. Submissions of the plaintiff Counsel for the plaintiff submitted that the defendants had made lengthy submissions on the subject of ³possession, custody or power² much of which, he submitted, was irrelevant to the matters under appeal. He argued that the net issue is whether the learned trial judge was correct in law in ordering the defendants to make discovery of certain specific documents which are mentioned in para 10 of the affidavit of Dympna Murphy recited above and which refer to the plaintiff, originals or copies which would routinely be procurable at the request of the defendants and which are not fully and adequately discovered already. He distinguished Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111 and said that the issue of interpretation is still open. He pointed out that the statement of law by O'Flaherty J in Quinlivan v Conroy [1999] 1 IR 271 is obiter dicta. He [2001] 1 IR 682 at 698 submitted that to make an enforceable legal right an absolute prerequisite for documents to fall within the power of a party under O 31, r 12 of the Rules of the Superior Courts, 1986, would be too restrictive. In particular, it would risk permitting organisations with operations outside the State to evade discovery of relevant documents otherwise obtainable by ensuring that they originated and remained with the foreign operation. He submitted that this was the thinking behind the order of the learned High Court Judge and that it was correct. He submitted that the learned trial judge recognised in his judgment that, notwithstanding the formal corporate structures adopted by the Church of Scientology in various jurisdictions, ³two branches of the same institution are involved². He referred to references in affidavits to the first defendant and its sister organisation operating as a single organisation. He referred to statements in documents relating to original documents being sent to England, to original documentation being requisitioned from England, and contact being made about documentation with England. And, finally, he referred to the affidavit by the fourth defendant, quoted by the learned High Court Judge at p 689 where it was said:- ³The counselling notes were last in my possession, power or procurement in 1995. At that time the documents were transmitted by me to the Church of Scientology at East Grinstead, Sussex in the United Kingdom. I am now making arrangements for this documentation to be returned to the Dublin mission.² The court was informed that there was no dispute as to the obligation to produce counselling notes. Counsel submitted that the nature of the relationship between the Irish and the English branches of the Church of Scientology is akin to a parent/subsidiary relationship between corporations. He argued that the relevant case law is set out in the judgment of Barron J in Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barron J, 29th April, 1986). In that case, the learned trial judge found that discovery could be ordered in respect of documents in respect of the parent company of the defendant on the grounds that: ³Possession alone is not the test. Documents may be in the power or procurement of a party even though they are not in his possession² and ³In the present case, there is no reason to suppose that a request for such documents by the defendant would be refused² (at p 3 of the judgment). Counsel pointed out that the Rules of the Superior Courts make no reference to the concept of procurement. He pointed out, however, that one of the defendants used the term ³procurement² in one of the affidavits. Counsel referred to the argument in relation to agency. The fact that it was submitted that even if the documents in question are at present outside [2001] 1 IR 682 at 699 the control and possession of the defendants, the English branch of the Church of Scientology was acting as agent for the first defendant when the relevant documents were created. He referred to the finding of agency by die learned trial judge. Counsel submitted that the documents which the plaintiff believes to be in the possession or power of a United Kingdom branch of the Church of Scientology were, in fact, created as a result of the plaintiff's attendance at courses delivered to her by the United Kingdom branch acting as agent for the first defendant. Counsel submitted that the agency is demonstrated by a number of facts, not least of which being the fact that one of the activities undertaken by the plaintiff in the United Kingdom branch was a continuation of a course already commenced with the first defendant in Dublin. Further, it was the plaintiff's case that she joined the first defendant and that when she attended courses run in the United Kingdom she did so in her capacity as a member of the first defendant. As a result, the United Kingdom branch of the Church of Scientology having no other basis for having an interest in the plaintiff acted as agent of the first defendant in delivering such courses to the plaintiff. Counsel submitted that documents held by an agent and created in the course of the agency and for the purpose thereof are the property of the principal. He submitted that this places the documents in question in the ownership of the first defendant, giving it a legally enforceable right to obtain them and thereby rendering them discoverable under O 31, r 12 and the decision of this honourable court in Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111. Counsel submitted that there is no merit in the defendants' submissions relating to the position in which they find themselves if they fail to comply with the order of the High Court. The order limits the discovery obligation to those documents which would be routinely procurable by the defendants. At the hearing held to clarify the scope of the order the learned trial judge made it clear that he would be very sceptical of any assertion by the defendants that any of the documents covered by his order had been bona fide destroyed. It is clear that documents routinely procurable can, by definition, be obtained and produced and that therefore the defendants must be prepared to face the full consequence of non-compliance with the order of the High Court if they fail to produce the documents. 7. Law O 31, r 12(1) of the Rules of the Superior Courts, 1986, states:- ³Any party may Š apply Š for an order directing any other party to any cause or matter to make discovery on oath of the documents [2001] 1 IR 682 at 700 which are or have been in his possession or power, relating to any matter in question therein.² In the said Rules, Appendix C, No 10, para 7 sets out the form of affidavit provided. The averment is:- ³According to the best of my knowledge, information, and belief, I have not now, and never had in my possession, custody or power, or in the possession, custody or power of my solicitors or agents, solicitor or agent, or in the possession, custody or power of any other persons, or person on my behalf, any deed, Š relating to the matters in question in this suit, or any of them, or wherein any entry has been made relative to such matters, or any of them, other than and except the documents set forth in the Š schedules hereto.² 8. Decision In relation to the discovery of documents the law evokes three concepts, possession, custody and power: see O 31, r 12(1) of the Rules of the Superior Courts, 1986, and Appendix C, No 10, paragraph 7. In Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111 at p 113, O'Flaherty J stated:- ³I believe that the three concepts come into play, viz possession, custody and power and they are to be considered disjunctively.² ³Power² was defined by O'Flaherty J at p 113 as:- ³A document is within the power of a party if he has an enforceable legal right to obtain from whoever actually holds the document inspection of it without the need to obtain the consent of anyone else.² This statement was reinforced in Quinlivan v Conroy [1999] 1 IR 271 at p 281, when O'Flaherty J, in a judgment agreed to by the four other members of the court, referred to the fact that an enforceable legal right to obtain the documents is necessary, stating:- ³Nor would the relationship (if it existed) give to the defendants the enforceable legal right to obtain those documents which, as has been held by this Court in Bula Ltd v Tara Mines [1994] 1 ILRM 111, is necessary to establish that documents are within the 'power' of a party or person for the purposes of O 31, r 12 of the Rules of the Superior Courts, 1986.² Thus a document to be discovered must be in the possession, custody or power (in accordance with the enforceable legal right test) of a party. In this case, the learned High Court Judge in his judgment directed that the documents now in issue be procured by the first defendant and be produced for inspection to the plaintiff. That direction was based on the premise that the documents in question were in the possession of the [2001] 1 IR 682 at 701 English Church of Scientology Corporation as agents of the first defendant. In effect the learned High Court Judge was holding that the documents were within the power of the first defendant because of an agency relationship with the English Church of Scientology and for that reason could be procured by them. As to the matter of agency, the first defendant is sued in its capacity as a corporation. On the basis of the facts adduced in this application, the first defendant is a separate corporate body to the English Church of Scientology corporation. While it has been shown that both corporations work towards the same goal and that they have co-operated in matters of mutual interest, it has not been established that, on the facts of this case, the English corporation acted as the agent for the first defendant in relation to the documents at issue. This is not to say that the first defendant and the English Church of Scientology must be treated in all circumstances as if they were wholly separate and distinct corporate entities operating at arms length. The court is not concerned with the general relationship between those two entities, but only with their relationship so far as it is relevant to the documents in issue in this discovery application. The documents now in issue between the parties originated in England, were created by the English Church of Scientology and have never been in Ireland. It has not been established by the plaintiff that the English corporation created or has custody of those documents as the agent for the first defendant. Indeed, in this case the evidence is that the English corporation acted independently and not as agent for the other in respect of those documents. Accordingly, the plaintiff has not established that the first defendant had an enforceable legal right to obtain the documents in question from the English corporation. The fact that the English corporation may have acted as the agent of the first defendant in other specific situations does not confer on the first defendant an enforceable right to obtain the documents in question and they therefore are not within its power. A party is only obliged to disclose documents in his possession, custody or power. To this rule there may be rare exceptions. However, these rare exceptions are examples of the judge, in his or her discretion in the circumstances of a particular case, making a determination on the facts. Such exceptions may be seen in the cases of Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay P, 26th May, 1977) and Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barron J, 29th April, 1986). However, the facts of neither are on all fours with the facts of this case and may be distinguished. The decision of Finlay P in Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay P, 26th May, 1977) may be seen as a practical solution to a special problem rather than a novel interpretation of [2001] 1 IR 682 at 702 the relevant rules. What the learned President said at p 19 of the transcript of the judgment was as follows:- ³I am therefore satisfied that within the meaning of the principle applicable to an affidavit of discovery I must at this stage at least decide prima facie that these documents are within the procurement of the plaintiff and that there is not any reason to believe that if the plain- tiff in pursuance of the obligations of the directors of JG Mooney & Company properly have to them as their nominees requested the handing over even though it might be on a returnable basis of these documents that that request would be refused. If it is a further application may have to be made to me and different considerations may apply depending upon the grounds for that refusal.² It will be appreciated that the learned President was dealing with a particular document which he believed - having regard to the relationship between the plaintiff company and the company is whose possession it was - could be obtained for the asking. But he made no concluded finding to that effect and, in the terms quoted, effectively reserved the right to the plaintiff to return to the court to explain whether the document was forthcoming. It may therefore have been an exception in practice rather than an exception in principle. Certainly the facts are readily distinguishable from the present case. Non-party discovery will resolve any such problems in the future where it relates to documents within the jurisdiction. In Yates v Ciba Geigy Agro Ltd (Unreported, High Court, Barron J, 29th April, 1986), Barron J referred to Northern Bank Finance Ltd v Charlton (Unreported, High Court, Finlay P, 26th May, 1977) and at p 3 of the unreported judgment stated:- ³In the present case, there is no reason to suppose that a request for such documents by the defendant would be refused. Indeed, counsel for the defendant has admitted they will be made available to him for the purposes of the trial and that they have already been made available for the purposes of the preparation of the defendant's defence. Prima facie such documents must be regarded as being available to the defendant if they are requested.² Thus this too may be regarded as a practical solution to a particular set of circumstances rather than an exception in principle. I am satisfied that the relevant legal principles were correctly set out by O'Flaherty J in Bula Ltd v Tara Mines Ltd [1994] 1 ILRM 111 and Quinlivan v Conroy [1999] 1 IR 271. [2001] 1 IR 682 at 703 9. Conclusion Documents which are in the possession, custody or power of a party must be discovered. A document is in the power of a party when that party has an enforceable legal right to obtain the document. The documents in issue in this case are not in the possession, custody or power of the defendants and the defendants have no enforceable legal right to obtain them. Accordingly, the plaintiff is not entitled to the discovery sought. I would allow the appeal. MURPHY J I agree with the judgment of Denham J. MURRAY J. I also agree with the judgment of Denham J. Solicitors for the plaintiff: Ivor Fitzpatrick & Co. Solicitors for the defendants: Ferrys (in the High Court); Duncan Grehan & Partners (in the Supreme Court). Siobhán Stack, Barrister