From alerma@nospam.bellatlantic.net Mon Jan 20 20:38:27 2003 see http://www.lermanet.com/reference/postedapril20.htm my speculations...continued: yep, that what I was looking at. interesting speculations if you want the justice seek the truth if you want the truth follow the money It was estimated from maria Gardini who is in the movie business... is that what was produced in "the Profit" could have been made for less than 250K, MAX and its too easy to attribute (bob's) motive to scn... and the corker even ***IF*** he had some tax problem it is beyond the statute of limitations for prosecution - PERIOD As alternative possiblity for taking the 5th- that it would compromise his own kids and wife's trust accounts, bob might have been willing to risk being conned as a fool with HIS money but he was not going to put his kids at risk, and this is merely an example. can't blame him for that Bob he called me in anguish before he actually recanted and told me he was gonna have to, no notes were taken he might have wanted out because he sensed that he was being taken Oh I think he fired Merrit cause of the conflict with Patricia and the fact that the PROFIT (MOVIE) was in fact a scam instead of a product. merrit had been previously retained by Patricia greenway, in fact it was Patricia that introduced merrit to him, after merrit played a newbie-do-the-right-thing-sunday-school-teacher and lawyer turned Johnny-do-right here on IRC to gain my trust bob told ken he was gonna have spill the beans { after the close call in criminal perjury trial in Shaeffer's court ) and ken, a "friend" replied and I quote (a reference to this is buried in the testimony somewhere...) but I was told it at the time "Whether or not you goto jail for criminal perjury will NOT affect whether lisa case goes to trial" bob, understandably, blew a fuse, dandar was supposedly a friend and ally, and lawyer Bob then figured John Merrit ( who was bobs own lawyer, though in hindsight I now think John was run in on LMT) would back up his testimony cause john was privy to much of this Merrit did not Bob and stacy were dumbfoudned and realized the Golden Goose was being cooked by Merrit testimony, and the rest of the carefully orchestrated testimony that IMO was choreographed by Patricia greenway... whose eyes have been on the big bucks. John Merrit told stacy, after getting off the stand Stacy is gesturing with her face and hands.. "Why john, WHY did you do it? John said and I QUOTE "That is the great thing about being a son of a bitch, you are untouchable" Now I'm not good at details and petey kady et all can argue details for many hours but bob has never lied to me IMO he was set up, plucked like a golden goose and Patricia greenway is VERY good at what she does You see I trust folks who have some compassion for their fellow man that was obvious and there's no compassion there's just a SHOW MUST GO ON mentality and everything we have seen can be explained by an effort to maximize the settlement amount at any cost... . PS: And screw bob including a damn good man, Bob Minton Bob asked Peter alexander to show him the books for the profit, Peter refused claiming bob is working for Scientology. This is all just too convenient. Bob HAS NO SETTLEMENT He has a non confidentiality agreement to try to discuss getting OUT Bob is sick of getting hosed by his enemies WHILE being hosed by his "friends" Dandar already HAD a secret agreement with scn THAT is what the breach case is about he never disclosed that to BOB! bob didn't find out until he was cleaning out old files in the fireplace and saw the agreement to not add parties as an attachment to a filing he had been sent a copy of now, IMO, Patricia and dandar will make the most money if bob were to commit suicide cause if bob were totally depressed he might not try and sue her for the FRAUD of the profit, the movie So not the altreligionscientology crowd says I am the deluded loon cause.. I take the word of my friend at face value ... I was the one that pointed out to HIM the Spanish prisoner thing He thought HE was going mad until I pointed it out TO BOB so not... should read so NOW...but then Patricia greenway has always called me kook cause I see through her manipulative bullshit and banned her from channel long ago we fight to expose scientology while trying to help fallen soldiers in the war compare that with stomping the faces of the fallen with your boot cause they are now in the way, (bleep) them and anyone fooled by them I spent enough time under the influence of Hubbard's Orweillian machinery, I know what it is like to be deceived, and by my own sig/creed, I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak. END-OF-RANT ps: good to see you again did you get my mailer? yep, I did. gotta digest what you just told me: it makes more sense than Bob going over to the clams and who the (bleep) is Patricia greenway? where did she come from? met peter alexander in an AOL singles chat room? u-huh she was from CW, and she just came out of the woodwork: I was there she was hired by peter after they met in an AOL singles chatroom supposedly I did an online search she has no history shortly after the profit came out she stopped posting the net and now gets posted the attacks she wants posted by working the folks on altreligionscn channel in into a lather on chat. she shares one smoking gun similarity to OSA or a sociopath when cornered she lies example... she states that she grew up speaking French told Heather she spoke French AFTER finding out that H did not when in Leipzig she could neither understand nor speak any french I'm convinced she's con woman, if she's not working for osa, perhaps she's working for CST, but I think she's working for herself, until we find that smoking gun. I thought she was interesting and wanted to meet her: it was like nailing jelly to a tree I think she was a hired gypsy I always thought it odd to be offered a nearly impossible and dangerous job back during that cold spring in Chicago... when Dennis Erlich was in settlement negotiations, and I'd chat with him often to keep his spirits up and willing to go all the way... I'd been concerned about not being able to talk to him during his settlement so brought my computer... there were only two people who knew where I was staying, one of them was Patricia, my computer as stolen the first day on the job.... and no computer was shipped to the site to use for a very long time, meanwhile Dennis Erlich settled and took the gag... of course this could just be happenstance. Or on the other hand, what is going on could be explained by USC 18 Section 201 (b) whoever- .... (3) directly or indirectly, corruptly gives, offers or promises anything of value to any person, or offers or promises such person to give anything of value to any other person or entity, with intent to influence the testimony under oath..... of course, this is merely speculation, but I believe it in my heart that it explains the facts far more easily than "Bob Sold Out".... Arnie Lerma see http://www.lermanet.com/reference/postedapril20.htm Ferengi + Borg = Scientology I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak. The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind http://www.lermanet.com - mentioned 4 January 2000 in The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"