COURT OF APPEAL Church of Scientology Advanced Organisation Saint Hill Europe and South Africa v. Scott and Others [1997] BPIR 418 JUDGES: Neill, Millett and Phillips LJJ DATE: 26 JUNE 1996 Bankruptcy ­ Right of bankrupts to prosecute or defend appeals ­ Whether subject matter of appeals excepted property ­ Insolvency Act 1986, s 283(2) S and L were former members of the Church of Scientology ('the Church'). In 1983 they obtained by unlawful means certain documents belonging to the Church, which issued proceedings against them seeking an injunction, delivery up and damages on the basis that the documents were confidential. S and L admitted that the Church was entitled to the return of the originals but alleged a right to retain copies which they had taken. Summary judgment was entered against S and L in relation to the original documents with damages to be assessed. On 22 February 1994, the first day of the trial, the copies having been returned to the Church's solicitors in 1984 to abide the result of the proceedings, the Church applied for leave to discontinue the action. S and L opposed the application on the grounds that they wished to establish their right to use the copies by publishing their contents for the purpose of denigrating the Church. The judge gave leave to discontinue upon terms that the copies were returned to L upon his undertaking not to use them or publish their contents. An injunction was granted against S in the same terms and the Church was also ordered to return copies to S. The judge ordered the Church to pay S and L's costs of the action. On 23 July 1994 the damages were assessed against S and L at nil. The Church appealed against the orders directing return of the copies and against the assessment of damages. S and L appealed against the imposition of the undertakings and injunctions. It subsequently transpired that on 6 April 1992 a bankruptcy order had been made against S. On 25 August 1995 a bankruptcy order was made against L and on 15 December 1995 a second bankruptcy order was made against S. The question whether S and L continued either alone or with their trustees in bankruptcy to have any interest in the further prosecution or defence of the appeals arose as a preliminary issue in the appeals. S and L argued that the copy documents were 'tools, books, vehicles and other items of equipment ... necessary ... for use personally [in their] employment, business or vocation' within the meaning of the Insolvency Act 1986, s 283(2)(a), which had not vested in their trustees in bankruptcy. Held - (1) There was no evidence that possession of the copy documents was necessary for the carrying on of any vocation or business by either S or L. (2) Notwithstanding the personal nature of the undertakings and injunction, the right to pursue the appeals and to resist the Church's appeals had vested in the respective trustees in bankruptcy to the exclusion of S and L. Statutory provisions considered Insolvency Act 1986, ss 283, 306, 436 Cases referred to Beckham v Drake (1849) 2 HL Cas 579 Dence v Mason (1879) WN 177, CA Heath v Tang; Stevens v Peacock [1993] 1 WLR 1421, [1993] 4 All ER 694, CA The first defendant appeared in person.; The second defendant appeared in person.; R. Reid for the offical receiver of the first defendant; Jonathan Russen for the trustee in bankruptcy of the second defendant; The third and fourth defendants did not appear and were not represented.; Stephen Nathan QC for the plaintiffs Harkavys for the trustee in bankruptcy of the second defendant; Hodkin & Co for the plaintiffs 26 June 1996 MILLETT LJ There are pending in the Court of Appeal the following appeals and applications: (1) An appeal by the plaintiffs and by the first and second defendants in the action from an order of his Honour Judge Sumner dated 8 March 1994 granting the plaintiffs leave to discontinue the action against them on terms. Leave to appeal was granted by this court on 13 November 1994. (2) An appeal by the plaintiffs from an order of Master Turner dated 23 July 1994 assessing damages against the first and second defendants at nil. (3) Applications by both the plaintiffs and both defendants for leave to adduce further evidence on the hearing of the appeals. The defendants no longer wish to adduce such evidence. (4) Applications by two third parties, who are licensees and copyright owners of certain documents, to intervene in the proceedings. All these applications have been directed by this court to be heard at the same time as the appeal. None of them is before us today. We have to decide a preliminary issue whether the defendants have locus standi to prosecute or defend the appeals. The issue arises because both defendants are or have become the subject of bankruptcy orders. I will try to summarise the facts as shortly as I can. The plaintiffs are a Danish corporation which forms part of the Church of Scientology. There were originally four defendants to the action, but the various appeals and applications which I have described concern only the first two defendants, Mr Scott and Mr Lawley. They, like the other two defendants, are former members of the church who became disenchanted and left the church in 1981 or 1982. In 1983 Mr Scott set up what the judge described as a splinter group of the church in Scotland. The proceedings concern documents described in the order of Judge Sumner as 'the NOT's documents'. These are the property of the plaintiffs and relate to the training practices of the church and counselling techniques used by the church which the plaintiffs allege and the defendants deny contain information which is confidential to the plaintiffs. In 1983 the first two defendants obtained access to and removed the subject documents. It is not denied by the defendants that they obtained the documents by unlawful means. Indeed, Mr Scott was prosecuted and convicted in Denmark in relation to the affair. Some 3 months after the defendants had obtained the documents, the plaintiffs brought proceedings in the Queen's Bench Division for an injunction to restrain the defendants from dealing with or copying the documents which they had obtained and for delivery up and damages. By their defence the defendants admitted that the documents were the property of the plaintiffs and that the plaintiffs were entitled to the return of the originals. But they denied that the contents of the documents were confidential to the plaintiffs or that the plaintiffs were entitled to injunctive relief, and claimed the right to retain the copies which they had made. Their defence was based on a variety of grounds which it is not necessary to rehearse, but they included allegations that publication of the contents of the documents was in the public interest, that the information which they contained was already in the public domain, and that the defendants were able to publish the material which they contained without making use of the copies in their possession. The plaintiffs obtained various interlocutory orders for the return of documents and copies, and on 13 July 1984 Kennedy J gave summary judgment for the plaintiffs under Ord 14 for the originals to be returned to the plaintiffs and for damages for wrongful interference to be assessed. He gave the defendants unconditional leave to defend the remainder of the claim, that is to say the part of the claim which related to the return of the copies and the claim for injunctive relief. The existing interlocutory orders, however, which related to the copy documents remained in force pending the trial. The result of the various orders was that the plaintiffs obtained the return of all the documents, both original and copies. In the case of Mr Scott, however, this was not by virtue of any court order. The documents, both original and copies, which were in his possession had been returned by his wife before the commencement of the proceedings. The rest of the documents, both original and copies, were returned by Mr Lawley, whether they had been in his possession or in the possession of the third or fourth defendants, without any distinction between them. The copy documents were retained by the plaintiffs' solicitors to abide the result of the proceedings. The defendants did not counterclaim for the return of the copies. After a long and unexplained delay the trial of the action was listed for hearing before his Honour Judge Sumner sitting as an additional judge of the High Court on 22 February 1994. During the previous week the action against the third and fourth defendants was settled. They abandoned all claims to the copy documents, and these were returned to the unconditional possession of the plaintiffs. On 22 February 1994, which was the first day of the trial, the plaintiffs applied to the judge for leave to discontinue the action against the remaining defendants, Mr Scott and Mr Lawley. The application, which came as a surprise to them, was opposed. The plaintiffs submitted that the trial could achieve nothing. They had obtained judgment under Ord 14 for the return of the originals, and the originals had been returned; all copies had been either returned or destroyed; the defendants were not counterclaiming for the return of the copy documents; there was no point in continuing with the trial; and the defendants' wish to do so was motivated by a desire to indulge in mud-slinging. That was the substance of the plaintiffs' submissions. The defendants opposed the application. They wished to argue their right to the copy documents and to make use of the information which they contained. But they were willing to offer undertakings not to use them for the purpose of running training courses or anything of that kind. Their stance was entirely consistent with the attitude which they appeared to have adopted throughout. It seemed that they were not alleging that they wished to use the documents themselves in order to carry on their work or to emulate the plaintiffs in any way, but rather to denigrate the plaintiffs and show them up. The judge thought that there was a strong case for discontinuance and gave the plaintiffs leave to discontinue. But he was concerned to impose terms designed to ensure that the plaintiffs should obtain no advantage from the proceedings other, of course, than that which they had already obtained from the summary judgment. This involved the return of the copy documents to Mr Lawley (though not to Mr Scott) and the extraction of undertakings or the imposition of injunctions so that neither of the defendants could not make any improper use of the documents which Mr Lawley would obtain. I will read from the judgment of the judge in order to show the considerations which he had in mind. He said: 'In my judgment and in the exercise of the discretion granted by [the relevant] rule, I consider that I should permit the plaintiffs to discontinue, unless it can be shown that the plaintiffs have gained some advantage from the litigation to date, or the defendants have suffered from disadvantage from the litigation at this stage which it would not be right and proper that that party should keep or have to bear. If I make the order for discontinuance at this stage and without terms ..., the plaintiffs will retain the copies, that is the copies surrendered by court order by Mr Lawley ... It is important to note that it is the defendants' case that, though they were unlawfully in possession of those documents, they claim they are entitled to them in any event.' Then the judge said: 'I am satisfied that the litigation to date has had this advantage for the plaintiffs, namely, that they have, by an order properly obtained, had returned to them copies of the documents; to that extent they have obtained an advantage in this litigation. I am equally satisfied that if the defendants win, it may possibly depend upon what grounds, there is a prospect that the court will not only discharge the injunctive orders so far made, but also, were there then an application, order the return of the documents which had been handed over if that were not going to be voluntarily done. Thus to deny the defendants a trial when they wish to recover those documents and have arguments in support on which there is a chance that they could succeed, and when discontinuance deprives them of that argument, is to give the plaintiffs an advantage in the litigation ... Just because that may be that position does not, in my judgment, justify refusing the plaintiffs the right to discontinue these proceedings. On the other hand, it does justify in imposing terms that leave neither party with such an advantage in the event of discontinuance. I consider that I am justified in this instant in imposing such terms in order not to permit the plaintiffs to obtain an advantage from the litigation to date which if the case continued they might lose.' Accordingly, by an order, which was not drawn up until after a further hearing on 8 March 1994, the judge ordered as follows. He first extracted an undertaking from Mr Lawley that he should not do any of the following acts: '(a) use the copies of the NOT's materials ("the copy NOT's documents") to assist him in running courses in Scientology or any system of similar beliefs or in counselling any persons whether for financial gain or otherwise; (b) infringe any third party's copyright in the use of the NOT's documents; (c) make any other use of the copy NOT's documents which may be an unlawful use (including photocopying the copy NOT's documents).' There were no procedural provisions included to enable disputes about the undertakings to be resolved. Next the plaintiffs were given leave to discontinue the balance of the action as against the first and second defendants upon terms thereinafter set out, and for the avoidance of doubt it was declared that the order for summary judgment dated 24 August 1994 (the date was an error) in the action should stand. The judge then granted an injunction against Mr Scott in the terms of the undertaking given by Mr Lawley and made an order that the plaintiffs should within 7 days give to Mr Lawley one copy of each of the NOT's documents which he delivered to the plaintiffs' solicitors pursuant to the order of 29 March 1984. I should interpose to say that, because it was not possible to identify which of the documents delivered by Mr Lawley belonged to him and which belonged to the third and fourth defendants, the order was that one copy of each of the documents should be delivered. Finally, the judge ordered the plaintiffs to pay the defendants' costs of the action and stayed the orders pending an appeal to this court. The plaintiffs appeal from the order requiring them to return copies of the documents to Mr Lawley. Mr Scott appeals against the judge's refusal to order delivery of copies of the documents to him even though the plaintiffs had not obtained their return from him by virtue of any court order. Both defendants appeal from the injunctions or undertakings which restrict the use which they can make of the copies which either of them may obtain under the judge's order or on appeal. In their notices of appeal both defendants have offered more limited undertakings in the following terms: '[not to] use the copies of the NOT's materials ... in running courses in Scientology ... or counselling for financial gain ...' It should be observed that the defendants' appeals from the judge's order would be frustrated by the success of the plaintiffs' appeal, since in that event there would be no documents on which the undertakings or injunctions could bite. On 23 July 1994 Master Turner assessed the damages under the Ord 14 judgment at nil and ordered the defendants to pay the plaintiffs' costs. The plaintiffs appeal from the master's assessment. The present preliminary issue arises because of bankruptcy proceedings which have followed the making of the order below. On 25 August 1995 a bankruptcy order was made against Mr Lawley. On 28 November 1995 Mr Ian Franses was appointed trustee in bankruptcy. On 15 December 1995 a bankruptcy order was made against Mr Scott in the Truro County Court on the petition of the plaintiffs. The official receiver in Plymouth is acting as trustee in bankruptcy. It has since transpired that a bankruptcy order had previously been made against Mr Scott on 6 April 1992 by the Sunderland County Court. The official receiver in Newcastle was the trustee in bankruptcy. That bankruptcy was automatically discharged on 6 April 1995. The official receiver was not informed about these proceedings. The plaintiffs submit that all the rights of the defendants, whether as appellants, applicants or respondents, are now vested in their respective trustees in bankruptcy; the defendants dispute this. In the case of Mr Scott, the question whether the rights vested in the first or second trustee in bankruptcy is not for decision today. It depends on the precise identification of the rights in issue, and it is hoped that the two trustees in bankruptcy can resolve this issue by agreement. If they cannot, they will have to make an application at first instance for the question to be resolved. So far as we are concerned the only question for decision is whether the defendants continue, either alone or jointly with their trustees in bankruptcy, to have any interest in the further prosecution or defence to the various appeals. In the case of Mr Lawley, the official receiver has sanctioned the exercise of various statutory powers, including the power to appear in the present appeals and to compromise them. The trustee does propose to compromise them. He has reached agreement with the plaintiffs which is conditional upon the court determining that the trustee has locus standi in the appeals to the exclusion of Mr Lawley. In essence, the terms of compromise are that the trustee will assign to the plaintiffs all the rights and interests of the bankrupt in relation to the copy NOT's documents, the subject matter of the respective appeals, for the sum of £ 25,000. No such compromise is yet in prospect in the case of the first defendant, Mr Scott, but it self-evident that the prospects of a settlement would be enhanced if the trustee in bankruptcy were the party with the exclusive power to compromise the appeals. I turn to the law. Section 306(1) of the Insolvency Act 1986 provides: 'The bankrupt's estate shall vest in the trustee immediately on his appointment taking effect or, in the case of the official receiver, on his becoming trustee.' Section 283(1) defines the bankrupt's estate and it provides, so far as relevant: '(1) Subject as follows, a bankrupt's estate for the purposes of any of this Group of Parts comprises- (a) all property belonging to or vested in the bankrupt at the commencement of the bankruptcy, and (b) any property which by virtue of any of the following provisions of this Part is comprised in that estate or is treated as falling within the preceding paragraph. (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to- (a) such tools, books, vehicles and other items of equipment as are necessary to the bankrupt for use personally by him in his employment, business or vocation; ...' Subsection (2)(b) is not relevant, nor is the proviso, nor subs (3). Section 436 defines expressions used generally in the Act. It contains a definition of property as including: '... money, goods, things in action, land and every description of property wherever situated and also obligations and every description of interest, whether present or future or vested or contingent, arising out of, or incidental to, property ...' So it includes choses in action. Although all choses in action vest in the trustee by virtue of s 436, in fact the courts have long placed a gloss upon the predecessors of the section so that certain causes of action which are personal to the bankrupt do not in fact vest in his trustee. These include cases in which: '... damages are to be estimated by immediate reference to pain felt by the bankrupt in respect of his body, mind, or character, and without immediate reference to his rights of property' (Erle J's judgment in Beckham v Drake (1849) 2 HL Cas 579). So actions for personal injury or defamation, for example, do not vest in the trustee in bankruptcy, but may continue to be litigated by the bankrupt. Where the bankrupt is a defendant, there is no question of any property as such vesting in the trustee but, nevertheless, since any claim for monetary relief or for the return of property will be a claim which will have to be brought against the trustee in bankruptcy, since the subject matter of the proceedings will have vested in the trustee in bankruptcy, the bankrupt has no continuing interest in defending the proceedings. On the other hand again, some actions seeking relief such as injunctions against the bankrupt personally which do not directly concern his estate can still be maintained against the bankrupt himself, and he is entitled to defend them and, if he loses, to appeal. This distinction was the basis of the decision of the Court of Appeal in Dence v Mason (1879) WN 177, in which a bankrupt wished to appeal against an order made before the bankruptcy granting an injunction to restrain passing off and ordering him to pay costs. His trustee in bankruptcy declined to appeal but the court said that the bankrupt himself could appeal against the injunction: '... which was a personal order against him [although of course the bankrupt] had no interest in the order as to costs, his estate being now vested in the trustee.' A modern exposition of these rules is given by Hoffmann LJ as he then was in Heath v Tang; Stevens v Peacock [1993] 1 WLR 1421. Since the vesting of the estate takes place on the date of the appointment of the trustee in bankruptcy, or of the official receiver when he is the trustee in bankruptcy, it is plain that the identification of the property which vests must be made as at that date. At first sight it appears, and it is submitted by both defendants, that they must be entitled to appeal, since their whole purpose in appealing is to dispose of an undertaking or an injunction made personally against them and which restricts their future activities. But if the position is examined more closely it is very different. The defendants are concerned in the following outstanding appeals and applications. First, the plaintiffs' appeal against the order of Master Turner dated 2 August 1994 assessing damages at nil. It is plain that neither defendant has any locus standi at all in resisting that appeal. Any damages to which the plaintiffs may be found on appeal to be entitled will constitute a bankruptcy debt which must be proved for in accordance with the 1986 Rules. The trustee in bankruptcy has the power to compromise the claim and the bankrupts themselves have not. Next, there is the application by two third parties, copyright owners and licensees, for leave to intervene in the proceedings. Their application is ancillary to the substantive appeals and need not be considered separately; similarly, of course, with the various applications for leave to adduce further evidence and so on. I turn then to the substantive appeals from the order of Judge Sumner. Taking them in the logical order in which they would necessarily be taken by the Court of Appeal, there is first the plaintiffs' appeal against the order that the plaintiffs should deliver the copy documents to Mr Lawley. Mr Scott himself is not directly involved in that appeal, though he is vitally interested in its outcome because he has an appeal against Judge Sumner's refusal to make a similar order in his favour. Mr Lawley has obviously the stronger case for an order for the delivery of the documents than has Mr Scott, but as regards locus standi the two are in the same case. Neither of them has a legal interest in the result of the appeals, since any documents which may be ordered to be returned will have to be delivered, not to Mr Scott or Mr Lawley, but to their respective trustees. Finally there are the appeals by both defendants from the extraction of undertakings or imposition of injunctions against their use of the documents if and when returned. At first sight this does appear to be a matter of personal interest to them in which they ought to be able to maintain an appeal, but that is not in fact the case. If the plaintiffs succeed on the appeal, they will not be returning any documents, and no question of injunctions or undertakings will arise. They can be discharged as superfluous. If on the other hand the documents are returned, they will be returned to the trustee in bankruptcy, and again no question of any undertakings or injunctions will arise. The defendants' appeals are, I think, properly described by the trustees in bankruptcy as parasitic, and only the trustees in bankruptcy have a right to be involved. This, however, is subject to one argument which has been advanced by the defendants. They accept that their estates have vested in their respective trustees in bankruptcy, but they submit that the documents fall within the exception provided by s 283(2) (tools and equipment necessary for the carrying on of the bankrupt's trade, vocation or employment). The trustees in bankruptcy made a preliminary submission of law that the subsection does not extend to tools and equipment not in the possession of the bankrupt at the date of vesting, since the right to obtain possession is a mere chose in action and not the goods themselves. This raises a question of some importance which I would be reluctant to decide on this appeal unless it were necessary do so. I would tentatively question the correctness of the submission on the basis that, given the width of the definition of the estate which does vest in the trustee in bankruptcy and, in particular, the fact that the property which vests includes choses in action, it may be necessary to give a similarly wide definition to the exception in subs (3). If so, it would extend not only to the tools, books, vehicles and other items of equipment in the actual possession of the bankrupt, but also to the rights to recover their possession by action if necessary. The consequences of a decision to the opposite effect would be very odd. But I do not decide the point because, in my judgment, it is unnecessary to do so. I turn to the defendants' submissions that the right to pursue the appeals or resist them have not vested in the trustees in bankruptcy. Mr Scott's submissions are very wide-ranging, and I shall probably not do justice to them by attempting to summarise them. He has made a large number of different submissions including the following: that it would be a denial of justice to deny him the right to appeal Judge Sumner's order; that he has won the moral high ground and the argument, demonstrated by the fact that the plaintiffs have discontinued; that there is a strong public interest in the case; that the materials represent an important aspect of his own long-standing intellectual studies and his work in counselling and psychotherapy; that he was fighting for the right to use what he had learned in Scientology freely and without impediment; that he ought not to have been made bankrupt, and that the documents represent an important aspect of his work in counselling and psychotherapy and as a minister of religion. Mr Scott's submission that the bankruptcy order was not properly made is not a matter which can be raised in this court in this way on the hearing of a preliminary issue as to locus standi in a forthcoming appeal. Unless and until the bankruptcy order is annulled, it stands, and with it the vesting of the property in the trustee in bankruptcy and the loss of locus standi if that be the consequence. With one exception all the other grounds represent arguments which might validly be put forward on the hearing of the appeal and might - I do not say would - be grounds for disturbing the order made by Judge Sumner. But they are irrelevant to the question whether Mr Scott or his trustee in bankruptcy has the right to pursue or defend the appeals. The only submission which is relevant to that question is whether the right to pursue the appeals or to resist the plaintiffs' appeals, which are plainly within the property which vests in the trustee in bankruptcy, are excluded from the vesting by the operation of subs (2); and that depends on whether the documents are tools, books, vehicles or other items of equipment necessary to the bankrupt for use personally by him in his employment, business or vocation. Mr Scott left the church in the early 1980s and worked thereafter on an oil rig and later as a financial services consultant. He became financial director of a small company in the construction industry which became insolvent at the time of the recent recession. At approximately the time of the bankruptcy order which was made against him, Mr Scott gave up that employment, and he has been unemployed for several years since, living on government income support. He did not disclose any occupation to the official receiver and told his trustee that he had not traded since April 1992. In his affidavit evidence and before us he has stressed that he carries on a vocation as a minister of religion, and that involves him in counselling and giving psychotherapy to persons who have problems of various kinds. He claims that the documents are necessary for the purpose of enabling him to carry on his vocation as a minister of religion or as a counsellor or psychotherapist. The problem with this submission seems to me to be that Mr Scott's wife returned the copy documents before the proceedings commenced, and Mr Scott has not counterclaimed for their return. In other words, so far as these proceedings are concerned, Mr Scott is asserting no proprietary claim. If the action had continued without discontinuance and the first defendant had succeeded completely, he would still not have recovered possession of the copies because of the absence of a counterclaim, and because they were not documents which could be said to be held by the plaintiffs' solicitors to his order; they were simply documents which Mr Scott's wife had returned to the plaintiffs before the commencement of any proceedings. So far as Mr Scott is concerned, the proceedings are not concerned with the right to possession of the physical documents at all, but rather about his right to make use of the information which they contain. Even if the documents could properly be described as equipment necessary for Mr Scott's use in his vocation, they are not the subject of the present proceedings. Accordingly, it seems to me impossible to maintain that he has any continuing interest in the appeals by virtue of subs (2). Even if I were wrong about that, I would say that I am not at all satisfied that they would come within the exception. The problem, of course, is that Mr Scott has not been in possession of or had access to the documents for the past 12 years. He has carried on his vocation without possession or use of the documents. It follows that their possession cannot be properly described as necessary for the vocation which he was carrying on. Mr Scott told us that he has an interest in obtaining the documents because he might wish to write a book about counselling techniques and would find them useful for that purpose. That would not make them equipment necessary to the carrying on of the vocation of writer. Mr Scott has told us that he is very concerned to make use of the intellectual property in the documents, that is to say the information which they contain and that for this purpose must be regarded as separate property. But the plaintiffs do not seek to restrain him from making use of any information which is in his possession. Their claim to injunctive relief to restrain him from using confidential information has been abandoned, and Mr Scott does not need to pursue an appeal in order to be able to continue to make use of such information as he may have obtained during his membership of the church, or that he may recall from his temporary ownership of the copy documents 12 years ago. He will remain free to make use of it. I turn then to Mr Lawley. He has similarly set out a number of different grounds upon which he claims to be entitled to maintain the appeals or to resist the plaintiffs' appeals. He says that the documents are part of his religious beliefs and they are necessary to enable him to carry on his religious practices. He told us today that some of them contain extracts from or are copies of his own psychological records. He told us that they are important to his mental health; and that they are material upon which he was counselled. He said variously that they are of no value but also that they are necessary to enable him to carry on his trade or vocation as a counsellor and a person who runs a helpline. He has also made the point that they are important in the public interest; that the information they contain should be made public and brought into the public domain, and he claims that in 1995-96 he earned £ 705 from carrying on his vocation as a counsellor or from his helpline of which, as I understand it from his submissions today, £ 100 or thereabouts was earned in 1995. Mr Lawley's position is different from Mr Scott's because the copies were in his possession and prima facie at least belonged to him, since he had made them before the writ was issued. Possession was only obtained by the plaintiffs by virtue of a court order, and they are held by the plaintiffs' solicitors to the order of the person ultimately found to be entitled to them. Accordingly, if the action had continued and Mr Lawley had succeeded, he would have obtained a recovery of the documents. So, although like Mr Scott he did not counterclaim, his case differs from Mr Scott's because he did not need to. Most of these grounds which Mr Lawley puts forward on the locus standi issue are not relevant to it. They might be material if the appeals proceeded. They might provide grounds upon which the court would intervene to set aside the order of the judge or the injunction which he imposed, but they have no relevance at all to the question which we have to decide, which is whether the right to pursue the appeals or resist the plaintiffs' appeals have vested exclusively in Mr Lawley's trustee in bankruptcy. Again the only question is whether the copy documents can properly be described as tools, books or equipment of Mr Lawley's vocation of running a helpline or a counselling service. The evidence on this includes an affidavit from a principal in the insolvency practice of which the trustee in bankruptcy is a partner. He deposes to the fact that on 9 January 1996 he conducted an oral examination of Mr Lawley. In the course of his examination, he inquired about the history of his business, occupation and source and pattern of earnings. In his answer Mr Lawley gave no indication that he pursued any business, trade or vocation other than that of a dentist since the mid-1980s. There are other grounds for seriously doubting whether Mr Lawley has ever carried on, or carried on before the date of the bankruptcy order, the vocation which he claims. He has sworn a large number of affidavits in the course of the various proceedings, in which he has made a number of comments which are, it seems to me, inconsistent with his present evidence. In his affidavit on 2 April 1984, for example, he deposed that: 'All we wanted was a copy of the originals for research, for our archives, for our research and for slight verification of certain points ...', and by 1994 he said that he and Mr Scott had: '... no intention of using upper level materials for any courses whatever. They are, in our opinion, very harmful ... I do not feel there is any value in any of it ... It is gobbledegook ...' On 6 April 1994 he claimed to need the copies to: ' ... protect the public and expose the fraud that has been afflicted on them.' He told Judge Sumner on 22 February 1994 that he had no interest in the documents personally whatsoever. He swore an affidavit in 1984 that: '... because we know the material so well we can in fact use it and propagate it without the actual texts', and in answer to interrogatories he said: '(1) I have never claimed, and cannot recall any specific times I have claimed to be able to provide courses based on or including the NOT's material. (2) I have never provided courses based on or including the NOT's material.' It will be remembered that an undertaking was extracted from him that he would not make use of the copies of documents to be delivered to him for the purposes of counselling, whether for reward or otherwise. That undertaking was extracted from him, but he is willing to give an undertaking in similar terms on the appeal. It seems to me that to volunteer an undertaking not to use the documents for the purposes of counselling, whether for reward or otherwise, is difficult to reconcile with his claim that the use of the documents is necessary for just such a business. I am certainly very far from satisfied that Mr Lawley's is a bona fide claim to be carrying on a vocation of counsellor or running a helpline at all. But, assuming for this purpose that it is, I cannot be satisfied that possession of the copy documents is necessary for it to be carried on. Again the simple fact is that Mr Lawley has not had possession or use of the documents in question for over 12 years, and that any practice which he has carried on during that time has been without them. I am left to conclude that what he really wants to do is obtain the information contained in them, and that is a very different matter. Accordingly, I have come to the conclusion that, on the evidence before this court and on the submissions which we have heard, it is not made out in either case that these documents are within s 283(2). It follows that the rights to pursue the appeals and to resist the plaintiffs' appeals have vested in the respective trustees in bankruptcy of the defendants to the exclusion of those defendants, and I would so declare. PHILLIPS LJ I agree. NEILL LJ I also agree. Costs of the trustee for Mr Lawley to come out of the estate; similar provision in the case of costs of the official receivers acting as the two trustees of Mr Scott. On any taxation of the plaintiffs' costs, they should be taxed on the basis that counsel's part in these proceedings was similar to that of an inter-pleading party and costs should only be taxed on that assumption; to be drawn to attention of the taxing master if necessary.