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From: "Rev. Norle Enturbulata" <notearthlight2k@norhotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: "Clark Bor" is an "on-Source" Scieno - (was Re: Anyone knows if Russ Shaw is out of the cult?)
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Damn fino post, Warrior. [clapping]

"Warrior" <warrior@entheta.net> wrote in message
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> Larry Grunty wrote:
> "Read the words of a scientologist applying black dianetics.
> See how religious clark bor is? Don't it just make you wanna
> join scientology right now and become more able like clark?"
>
> Claire Swazey (aka "Fluffygirl") <amafluffygirl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Oh don't be a dip.
> Clark-Bor is ~one~ Scientologist among many.
> ~I'm~ a Scientologist and ~I~ don't post anything
> like that."
>
> > As posted in article <20020201055503.30347.qmail@nym.alias.net>,
> > here are the words of the OSA hatted Scientologist with the nick
> > "Clark Bor" (Clark_Bor@juno.com):
> >>
> >>Joe, this is sad. Now you're seeing ghosts in your closet? I mean,
> >>just on a practical level, how could I possibly squeeze in there with
> >>all those empty beer cans?
>
> Notice the "1.1" level of comunication. In just three lines, "Clark Bor"
> managed to imply that Zinjifar is hallucinating and an alcoholic. Even
> if true, how do the uses of Hubbard's "restimulation tech", "button-
> pushing", and "invalidation/evaluation tech" actually help anyone?
> "Clark's" intention is clear. He wants to degrade Zinjifar personally,
> while ridiculing him in this public forum. "Clark" wants to *attack*,
> never defend his criminal cult. The defense of it is untenable in his
> mind.
>
> "The defense of anything is untenable. Never defend; always attack."
> -- L. Ron Hibbard
>
> "Clark", do you think your attempted "handings" are successful? Have
> you read and applied an "eval" and/or programs which delineate how to
> "handle" a.r.s. posters such as Zinjifar?
>
> >>Apparently you have no idea just how predictable you are. Your whole
> >>life (or what little there is of it) is strewn around cyberspace in
> >>pathetic but remarkable detail. And what does it all add up to? One
> >>long drunken rant out of the mouth of a child molester.
>
> Here we see more "invalidation" and "black PR". These are the hallmarks
> of an OSA-hatted Scientologist.
>
> >>Were you once an intelligent guy? Sure. I've read postings from your
> >>occasional dry periods. But if you think anyone on this ng requires
> >>psychic abilities to discern that drugs and alcohol have left your brain
> >>utterly fried then I feel truly sorry for you. Well, almost.
>
> There's no sorrow, empathy or compassion from "Clark". OSA-hatted Scienos
> are not allowed to express these human emotions towards perceived enemies
> like Zinjifar.
>
> >>Right up
> >>until the point where your penchant for seducing children comes into it.
> >>It's very hard to feel sorry for a malicious, preying animal. Little
> >>girls -- somebody's daughter or kid sister - that's who you abuse to
> >>get your thrills. Sick doesn't begin to describe you - and there isn't
> >>a prison sentence long enough for creatures like you. Did you know that
> >>when you had net sex with C-Bear and Lianna?
>
> I wish "Clark Bor" would have taken an active interest in the perverts,
> criminals and "degraded beings" in Scientology's Cadet Org. If you have
> done so, "Clark", please don't be bashful. Feel free to speak up and
> let me know what you personally did about it, if anything.
>
> >>You've been trashed, bashed and generally maligned by all who've come
> >>into contact with you -- a fact I'm sure you take a perverse pleasure
> >>in. That's obvious from your postings too. You fight back like a rabid
> >>hyena, resisting any attempt to rein you in, even when your proclivities
> >>endanger your so-called friends. So, how much do you want to bet you
> >>have a serious fear of being controlled? Now, before you accuse me of
> >>being a close friend of Dionne Warwick's, let me remind you that any
> >>Psychiatry 101 student could figure that out.
>
> "Clark" even takes a swing at psychiatry. Why am I not surprised?
>
> >>And the fact that women
> >>leave you? Well, how many drunks do you know with long-lasting
> >>relationships? If you have kids, I'll bet they deserted you a long
> >>time ago too.
>
> More "inval". Remember... those are the words of a Scientologist.
>
> >>So, the next time you see Ed Richardson hiding in your closet or under
> >>your bed, may I make a suggestion? Call 1-800-G-H-O-S-T-B-U-S-T-E-R-S.
> >>Unlike you, they ain't 'fraid of no ghosts.
> >>
> >>Clark
>
> Judging by the posts by the likes of "Clark Bor", one can only surmise
> that Scientology wants to have a nasty reputation.
>
> > Claire Swazey (aka "Fluffygirl") <amafluffygirl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh don't be a dip.
> >>
> >> Clark-Bor is ~one~ Scientologist among many.
>
> Yes. He's one among many nasty, rude Scientologists, completely exemplary
> of the cult of Scientology's hiding "thetans".
>
> >> ~I'm~ a Scientologist and ~I~ don't post anything like that.
>
> In article <3c6042ca_4@corp-news.newsgroups.com>, Dan Garvin wrote:
> >
> >Because you had the good sense to reject large chunks of Scientology,
while
> >holding on to what you see as valuable and non-destructive. What
Clark-Bor
> >is doing *actually is* part of Scientology. He's doing what Ron says.
He's
> >on-Source.
>
> You are correct. He's "reverse processing" Zinjifar. In Scientologese,
> it's called "invalidation". He is also intentionally "pushing buttons".
> This is one way to recognize an OSA "hatted" Scientologist.
>
> >Modern Christianity (most versions) has excised the fanatical, murderous
> >elements and members, and ignores or reinterprets the more violent or
> >bigoted teachings of the Bible, and that's the way Christianity is
defined
> >now: not a bad bunch, at all. Scientology is still avidly practicing the
> >anti-social teachings of Hubbard, right alongside the "good" parts--so
> >that's how Scientology is defined still: a criminal cult. It's not really
> >unfair.
>
> I agree. After all, Claire certainly has not claimed that "Clark Bor"
> is using any "technology" other than Hubbard's policies for handling
> perceived enemies of Scientology. In fact, I can cite quite a few of
> Hubbard's policies that "Clark Bor" is applying.
>
> I am constantly observing examples demonstrating the truth in Leisa
> Goodman's statement that "Scientology is not a turn-the-other-cheek
> kind of religion."
>
> "Clark" certainly wouldn't talk to a fellow Scientologist the same way
> he does to Zinjifar. And if "Clark" were "auditing" a fellow member,
> he most assuredly wouldn't ask "questions" like the ones he asked of
> Zinjifar.
>
> >It's up to you and your fellow non-COS scientologists to change the
> >perceived meaning of Scientology, if you don't want the name to have evil
> >connotations.
>
> Again, I agree. But as long as Scientologists continue to apply Hubbard's
> policies pertaining to the treatment and handling of "enemies", they'll
> act like.... well... Scientologists who are "on-Source".
>
> If I were Claire, I would call myself an Eclectic or something with
> a similar meaning. Because clearly she is not an "on-Source" Scieno.
>
> >--
> >Dang
> >Mobile ARSCC(wdne) Unit I/C
> >and S.W.A.T. Team Leader
> >(Suppression, Woggery, ARC-Breaks & 'Turbulation)
> >by the grace of Xenu, amen
>
>
> Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
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>