If you say SATAN with a lisp it comes out THETAN...
There is another secret level called OTIII - pronounced Oh Tea Three, Scientology used to claim that this was a "forgery'" until in 1995 I posted a court record to the net, containing a copy of it, called the Fishman Affidavit, and was promptly raided and sued by Scientology in Federal Court.
see or have any of these BODY THETANS, you must re-do all your previous levels
at YOUR EXPENSE...
For $300,000 seems most are willing to induce
such perception and see...
The Emperor's New Clothes...
Of course, just as in the childrens fairy tale, OSA and Scientology
would call anyone a fool who could not 'see' them, or say that Scientology is a complete fraud.
PS: And then theres a little line at the end of where you are running
the OTIII incident, where Hubbard warns:
ONLY RUN INCIDENT II UP UNTIL YOU SEE THE PICTURE OF THE PILOT SAYING
"I AM MOCKING IT UP"
I bet it was jaunty nautical looking pilot, like the pictures of
Hubbard in his Admiral Farragut cap...hanging on the walls, getting
off his withold ( what Scientology calls a "secret" you dont wish to reveal) and wondering if anyone noticed..
And then of course there is the CONFIDENTIAL OT8 Student Breifing....
"Jesus was a pedophile and lover of young boys"
The one that Kendrick Moxon marked as a copyright infrigment, in RTC
vs Lerma, Leiby, Marc Fisher, The Washington Post and Digital gateway
and then Scientology's Scientologist attorney Earle Cooley explained
to Judge Brinkema after they changed their minds and realized they had
better NOT call it a copyright infringement... he said "that just goes
to show you have to have expereinced people doing the search" (of my
hard disks )..
Kendrick Moxon was a 20+ year scientologist at that time... an
OT7.....
and he marked it as a copyright violation...
The back peddling was amazing!
And now it is called a "FORGERY"
You see, the original 1977 version OT levels had already been
repeatedly posted to the net by SCAMIZDAT... whomever that was...
A few days after the 1995 raid, Kendrick Moxon and Helena Kobrin knocked on Richard Leiby's door. Kobrin asked Richard if he had the OT materials I had given to him. Rich said, "You mean OT1 through Ot8?" Helena said "Yes". At that moment Moxon elbowed Helena Kobrin in the ribs, and she said, "No, I meant OT1 through OT7"
Rich told them no he didn't have them. And said they were in the safe at the Washington Post.
Scientologists were saying they were "A FORGERY"... however I
recognized them from when I was a Eric Hoffer style "True
Believer"..in Scientology.
So I scanned and posted the Fishman Affidavit,
see: http://www.lermanet.com/cos/wpost.html
and got raided and sued...
see: http://www.lermanet.com/cos/raid.html
Anyhow... So is that OT8 Student Briefing the real deal? Yes.
Years later when old friend, and ex-member, Joe Harrington died, he said, on his deathbed "I AM
SCAMIZDAT"
http://www.lermanet2.com/exit/joeharrington.htm
It isn't so much what the super dooper secret levels are about that is important, it is the FACT of it being 'secret'.
As long as you don't know what rubbish they are, you will "mock up" that it must be something so amazing, so terrible, so fantastic ( I mean it MUST be something like that, or how else could doing the level make you an "OT"?
And premature exposure to Xenu and the space cooties will result in your dying of pneumonia!
(Ron said)... However the NY Times closed an article about the posting and the lawsuit and specifically that claim with:
"....however, no epidemic has been reported."
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/nytimes/nyt-lerma.htm
It is that induced by linguistic-trickery-mock-up, also known as hypnosis, which sticks scientologists to scientology (among other things ).
Another ingredient in the glue is the promise of "OT" ... however, if there were just one OT in Scientology they wouldnt need lawyers, gag agreements etc...
Scientology as a scam is much like Scientology's Scientologist "minister" Reed Slatkin's Ponzi game
see http://www.slatkinfraud.com
As long as money is flowing in the show will go on...
The phrase: "The show must go on" is from Carnival man PT Barnum
Compare that to Hubbard's version:
"THE SUPREME TEST OF A THETAN IS THE ABILITY TO MAKE THINGS GO RIGHT"
(full caps in original) - same deal...
The the complexity is getting the hundreds of thousands dollars together for all those books, E-meter, tapes (gottah keep you hypnotized with hope of the PROMISE of OT), courses, auditing rundowns, sec-checks etc...not to mention attending those Man-with-no-head pep rallys... and it was made complex enough so that hopefully you would not figure it out before you died...
see: http://www.lermanet2.com/PhotoLIES.htm
(BIG GRIN)
Sincerely
Arnie Lerma
703 241 1498
Johnnie the P
Friday, March 05, 2004 - 08:04 pm
Arnie:
Yes, you are right. You've just said everything that a lot of us have thought about and maybe forgot. Thanks for reminding us and putting it all down in words. Whether it's been said before or not; it needs to be said again and again.
Yes, the "secrets"; Hubbard invoked such words on the first page of DIANETICS '55. It had an effect on me way back when I first read that book. Someone should post a couple of paragraphs from that first page. I threw out my Hubbard books years ago. I couldn't even give them away at the time. Too many people knew.
Magoo
Friday, March 05, 2004 - 08:33 pm
Thanks, Arnie for these links! I agree, it's the secrecy that is the glue that keeps people trying.
Hell, don't most people hope for ~something~ better? So when you cannot know, it keeps you figuring, "Ok, ~~this~ may have not nailed it,
but there's always ____.
Once I hit_____ (for me it was OT 7) and it totally didn't work, then after 7 years, I finally got it: IT JUST PLAIN DOESN'T WORK!
Johnnie, you say:
"I would have thought that Hubbard would have created a course pack with a lot more complexities".
He did...if you ever wonder, drop by the NOTs material. There is endless BS he created to keep one stuck in the complexities, too. It is those very complexities, that once you 'get' were merely created to keep YOU on Hubbard's Road to No where.....it's then that the chips begin to fall.
My best
Tory/Magoo!
RonIsACon
Friday, March 05, 2004 - 10:34 pm
The insights, the revelation gained
on OT8 is this:
"I now know what I am not and am
ready find out what I am"
Isn't this why you joined scientology to begin with?
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 25 February 1966:
"MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY.
MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY."
Ron Is A Con
Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 08:11 am
That reminds me of the Real definition of "Supressive Person" as used in Scientology:
"Anyone who interferes with the continued extraction of money from Scientology's rubes"
BodySatan
Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 02:57 pm
Why is there still war in the world if there are now OT 8's?
Why haven't the scientologists stopped the wars in the world with their special powers?
Arnie: Because if there were just ONE of those super duper OT's in Scientology then you would not be reading this line of text!
RonIsACon
Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 03:53 pm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I now know what I am not and am
ready find out what I am"
Not to forget the History of Man inclusion:
http://www.xenu.net/clam_faq.html
L. Ron Hubbard in the introduction claimed it was "a cold blooded look at your last 60 trillion years." How could this be wrong? He also claimed his book finally proved the theory of evolution.
Many engrams, for example, could be traced back to clams. The clam's big problem was that there was a conflict between the hinge that wanted to open and the hinge that wanted to close. It was easy to restimulate the engram caused by the defeat of the weaker hinge, Hubbard pronounced, by asking a pre-clear to imagine a clam on a beach opening and closing its shell very rapidly and at the same time making an opening and closing motion with thumb and forefinger. This gesture, he said, would upset large numbers of people.
What are the things members learn they are not?
Can we start a list of things scientologists
actually cannot do from learning, what they are not?
They are:
not to question the teachings of Hubbard
not to give courses without charging money
now allowed to discuss negatively about
scientology to other scientologists
not allowed to see mental health professionals
not allowed to take or advocate use of psychotropic drugs
not allowed to talk to family who speaks against Hubbard
teachings
Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 09:27 am
That 'clam thing' is based upon the use of benzidrene - ampthetamine - speed.
Ron's son ( who changed his name to DeWolfe ) drove non stop from Wichita
(after they 'decided' to leave
after a wave of bad publicity:
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/time-scientology-122251.htm
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/ammercury-review-0851.htm
Wichita
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/witchita-ad.htm
Ron's son,. L Ron Hubbard Jr, who later changed his name to Ron DeWolf to escape the Hubbard stigma...
see http://www.lermanet2.com/82cwcommission/
He drove non-stop cross country, popping bennies (benzidrene) a brand of amphetamine popular back then to stay awake, bennies were also known in the 60's as 'black beauties'. He drove nonstop cross crountry between wichita kansas and Pheonix Arizona was a two lane blacktop affair... no superhighways back then...
The trip would have taken days...1168.02 miles
at 30 mph...or 40 mph or 38 hours driving time
So picture this, L Ron Hubbard Jr Ron DeWolfe ... wild eyed and up for 2 DAYS driving whacked on speed....
Arrives in Pheonix.. His dad immediately starts 'auditing him' and digs up, between him and MAry Sue, all those incidents which became the core of "HISTORY OF MAN"....
So History of Man is based almost entirely upon the delusional withdrawal symptoms of benzidrene
which is chemically Amphetamine Sulfate related to METHEDRENE which produces psychotic episodes of paranoia during withdrawel.
Page 92 - Merck Chemical Index - 11th Edition
Entry # 616. Amphetamine. (�)-�-Methylbenzeneethanamine;
dl-�-methylphenethylamine; 1-phenyl-2-aminopropane;
(phenylisopropyl)amine; p-aminopropylbenzene; racemic
desoxy-nor -ephedrine; Actedron; Allodene; Adipan; Sym-
patedrine; Psychedrine; Isomyn; Isoamyne; Mecodrin;
Norephedrane; Novydrine; Elastonon; Ortedrine; Phene-
drine; Profamina; Propisamine; Sympamine; Simpatedrin.
CyH13N; mol wt 135.20. C 79.95%, H 9.69%, N 10.36%.
(AMPHETAMINE) Sulfate, C18H22NZO4S, Alentol, Benzedrine, Psychoton,
Simpamina. Crystals. Slightly bitter taste followed by a
sensation of numbness.
(AMPHETAMINE) Phosphate, CyH16NO4P, Actemin, Aktedron, Monophos,
Profetamine Phosphate, Racephen, Raphetamine Phosphate.
d-Form sulfate, see Dextroamphetamine Sulfate.
Note: This is a controlled substance (stimulant) listed in the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, Title 21 Part 1308.12
(1987).
THERAP CAT: CNS (Central Nervous SYstem) stimulant; anorexic.
Now the clincher... is the "CLAM" incident...
All that talk about making your 'jaws' ache
if you 'restimulate' the 'clam incident'..
Bollocks...
One side effect of any of the amphetamine family, especially with prolonged use to stay awake, is that one will begin to clench ones teeth... so much and for so long that for days after coming off of 'speed' one's jaws will hurt like heck, and yeah your 'jaws' will hurt because they are tired from beig 'clenched' for days...
Hubbard was and is a complete fraud.
I guess if enough people read this screed they will have to cook up still yet another version of OT8....
Arnie Lerma
703 241 1498
Magoo - Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 12:54 pm
Arnie...
Wowswers, I never knew that story. Thanks!
Did you know that Hitler was an Amphetamine freak? LINK
Tory/Magoo!
lermanet.com - Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 01:41 pm
In the 1960's dexedrine, Smith Kline brand, a related form of amphetamine was being widely prescribed as a "diet pill" I did have occassion to take a few... and spent a memorable couple days walking through the streets of the Village in New york...
One memorable sunrise was spent turning that great Square sculpure that is set on (see lower left image )it's point at Astor Place, on a pivot, around and around at sunrise, with some acquaintances of Alan Ginzberg....and I recall vividly that for days after MY jaws hurt ....sore from being clenched from the speed high...
"Truth is stranger than Fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't."
Mark Twain
Thanks Arnie - Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 08:14 am
Arnie I want to thank you for your work. your site is wonderful information. It is saving many lives.
lermanet.com - Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:08 pm
Thanks
I Just try to do the best I can
That's all that anyone can expect...
And never get discouraged, and if I do, I try not to show my weaknesses to Scientology...
Just keep on keepin on....
Ida Camburn's 30 year efforts are my inspiration...
http://www.lermanet.com/idacamburn/
and it was Andre Tabayoyan's affidavit that originally, (amongst others ) galvanized me into wanting to take action and try and do somehting about Scientology.
Arnie Lerma
To be continued...