Nov 22nd 2002:
Barbara Schwarz targeting various ex-members including Brigitta Dagnell
People Out of Control ( from News of the Weird June 15 2003 )
Barbara Schwarz is history's most prolific filer of Freedom of Information Act requests, according to a May profile in The Salt Lake Tribune. Schwarz says she is a daughter of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard and a granddaughter of President Eisenhower and said she endured a number of kidnappings and mind control and microchip-implanting procedures in her quest to learn the whereabouts of her alleged husband, whom Schwarz said disappeared after he was charged with murdering Barbara Schwarz (yes, the same one). She has, said the Tribune, "carpet-bombed" "every" federal agency with "thousands" of FOIA requests, followed by "dozens" of follow-up lawsuits (one containing 2,307 pages, naming 3,087 defendants). [Salt Lake Tribune, 5-5-03] - Killfile this one
SunSurfer - targeting ("depopularizing") ex member Michael Pattinson
vic bonds
ryanwashere
Names, nicks and other identities:
Nick: Baron - OSA operative who routinely rides OSA's directed
attack lines. Posts anti-psychiatrist spam; supports gunBunny. Name: Bill Yaude -
head of OSA's OT volunteers Internet mafia" run out of OSA's Internet Unit at
Hollywood Guaranty Building [HGB] at 6331 Hollywood Blvd., Suite 1200, Hollywood, CA 90028
headed by Gavino Idda and includes Jim Kalergis and a guy named CJ."
> Gavino Idda's Special Mission work
...
> At a get together in 1985, Sjogren met Gavino Idda, who headed a
> similar mission in Italy at the time. Idda boasted that he hired a PI
> who bribed a head of the dreaded Guardia di Finanza (The Finance
> Police) in Milano with an expensive gold watch and some thousands of
> dollars. The result was a raid of the premises of a "squirrel group",
> accompanied with bad media for the group.
rest is webbed at http://cisar.org/011029a.htm
And Gavino Idda is the guy who provided the Hemet Court with internet
postings they claimed were mine. How nice. Keith
Henson
See the BERNIE page HERE
Nick: Bernie - A one-time Guardian Office member, now OSA volunteer who runs a fake who's
who at welcome.to/ars.. Bernie" has used the name "Bernard Roentgen" once.
His specialty is perimeter defense, as he poses a stand at a reasonable distance from the
OSA attack bots designed to fool people with half-truths. He is included here because he
is obviously part of the show, and is a known ex-GO. Up until now, he has been what OSA
used to attack people, when OSA didn't want to be >seen> as attacking people Suspected to
also use the nick "Kymus" on aol.
"I'm sorry, but after looking through Bernie's site I've come to
the conclusion
that it's just more Scientology propaganda -- and especially devious since it
poses as a critic site.
And yes, it's biased -- against critics. There's little on here that actually
criticizes Scientology, but plenty that criticizes, nay, ATTACKS, critics.
While some of his points may be valid -- some of L. Ron's were too (truth mixed
with lies) -- his purpose seems to be to weaken the critic movement. I don't
think his guise of 'rationality' should be trusted.
Dilbert Perkins
Los Angeles, CA"
"Fluffygirl" "Claire"
amafluffygirl@yahoo.com Does an "I am a reasonable ex-member apologist
act"...- "oh yeah, sure, you think that's true, well I never saw it, so it isn't necessarily true and I am the princess of $cientology"
Fluffy is a detriment to any newbie coming in because of her use of a pattern of apology and then always, gently, and graciously, changing the subject. In my opinion, she helps keep people in scientology, gently...
Larry T - Larry T INVENTS stories, so that they may be used as proof that "Its all lies" -
Jonathan Barbera
Bill Walton bwalt@sonic.net
runs old DA attacks on Rob Clark
Bouncer -
Clark Bor - an 'on source' Scientologist read this great analysis by Warrior
Nick CL - past attacks on ex-member Gerry Armstrong
on April 4th 2002 Gerry adds
"Oh, the CL Op had the hat of attacking the Admissions' authenticity.
But that was about as logical as the op's attacks on its other
designated targets.
Yes, the Hubbard's Admissions are authentic.
[ link to admissions from 'sources' pages ]
(c) Gerry Armstrong
Dave Dufoe davedu@nospamplease.com - Started posting
anti-psychiatry spam December 5, 2001
Dorian : - the scent of evil is overwhelming, though telling the
difference between a sociopath and a scientologist working for their Stazi division "OSA" is quite difficult at times, previous
attacks upon Andreas { runs http://www.xenu.net) and
current attacks upon ptsc makes me think this is no more that yet another contrived
identity to create the super critic valence... while trying to destroy bob minton [
details not posted ], andreas at xenu.net and ptsc by
it's contrivances. The Dorian identity espouses the eugenics plans of the Third Reich.
Perhaps, this was an attempt to create a guilt by association.... that ex-members might be
be intrigued by the stylistic elements used..
Nick: Dr. Paloma -
An OSA operative who routinely rides OSA's directed attack lines. He attacks selected
critics and supports gunBunny. This nick is suspected of either being Dennis Clark, head
of CCHR, or may be OSA Ian Shillington. Though Ian isn't considered nasty enough to be
Paloma, Ian has claimed publicly to be a "Doctor of Neuropathy" in Florida, and
of course has NO diploma or credentials since no such thing exists in Florida.
Shillington, like Mary DeMoss and Richard Hirst, would likely be posting through an ISP
provided by Intnet.net (George Pilat). "Dr. Paloma" has recently claimed to be a
"neuropsychiatrist."
Ex-Scn [ a nick ] nothing ex about this dingbat
Facts_not_lies@yahoo - Mary DeMoss, Mary Demoss was Lisa McPherson's boss, shes dead
File_Clerk@anon.lcs.mit.edu
goofy attacks on Gerry Armstrong started 29 Oct 01
Nick: Gunbunny -
An OSA operative who routinely rides OSA's directed attack lines. He attacks selected
critics, in particular Bob Minton. Name: Keith E. Wyatt
Nick Jack Carver
ipsemoi@yahoo.ca (J Galt) : Another one suspected as playing
critic but uses the old osa handling line of making a "reasonable comparison to
Christianity"
Nick: JLHartley - He is another Dr. Paloma/Baron/Travis Sargent type.
kumbia titus@eta.com Incoherent rants
Nick: Kymus - See Bernie above.
Nick: Lameduck - Scientologist and OSA volunteer Mary DeMoss.
Nick: LaserClam -
What LaserClam is trying to run
here on a.r.s. is a 'deflection of attention' away from a previous post or header from
which OSA wishes to divert your attention, by means of the attempted use of his
'question'. Some people have correctly pointed out that LaserClam is applying Hubbard's
so-called 'auditing tech'. 9PL429o0
Leo_J@hotmail.com - A new one 23 oct
2001
Nick: LMTbadpr - Scientologist and OSA volunteer Mary DeMossMary
Demoss was Lisa McPherson's boss, she's dead
Nick: LMTwatch - Scientologist and OSA volunteer Mary DeMoss, Mary
Demoss was Lisa McPherson's boss, she's dead.
Lurkmonster - apologies to all for not adding you sooner, a volunteer
scientologist from DC area who is currently trying to handle the newsgroup . If there was
just one "OT" in scientology Lurkmoster wouldn't have been asked to handle the
newsgroup.
michaelw8g@hotmail.com (Michael) (Umike) now UltraMike7@webtv
ultramichael, shortly after the inception of this page, announced on ars that he
has a new nick this one, notice here that
he joins the bernie [ see above ] club, also note bernie apologists site won't point at
this one, but we point at bernie's
And this GEM from umike: umike (209.179.140.54) Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 02:48 pm
Pitbull writes:"What lies on the religiousfreedomwatch site? '
Exactly. I havent found any lies there.
Nick: Ultramichael - Ultramichael makes erratic, contradictory, insane
postings. Rational dialogue is impossible with him. On October 1, he posted that he was
changing his nick to Mike. Sure.... f you believe this, I have a bridge to sell you...
Nick: MikeSmith3 - He is suspected as being Bill Yaude.
Nick: Miscreant Critic - Jan 16th 02 - targets Dave Touretsky,
Tilman, Jost and myself with elaborate fabrications in true Hubbardian fictional
illusion style.
Nick: perky_dinky@my-deja.com - just another Bill Yaude dingbat
Relay@cotse.com - This identity posts Bob Minton Dead Agent material.
Nick: Sleddog - "Sleddog" is actually Richard Hirst, a
Clearwater OT Committee member, a Mary DeMoss lackey and primary FLAG OSA contact with
Daniel Otero, who is an OSA-hired Tampa P.I. (Richard Hirst keeps Alaskan Malamutes or
Huskie dogs as pets, ergo: the "Sleddog" moniker. DeMoss and Hirst post from
same or similar ISP addys as provided by Intnet.net, an ISP owned and operated by George
"unindicted Snow White co-conspirator" Pilat).
smashmouth@volcanomail.com (Russ K)
Nick: stvej@aol.com . He sometimes calls himself
"Steve"Jazz", sometimes "Steve Jasmine". His debating technique is
something like "take something someone said, and make nothing of it".
Nick: theta@btinternet.com (Theta), aka mike.
Nick: Tigger This person produces nothing, pattern is to attack ex-members, and Bob Minton, oftimes posts pointers to newsarticles that are critical of Scientology but only generates criticism of warriors who are doing their damnedest to expose scientology, and has upset and wasted the time of a dozen ex-members who all think she's a sociopath or OSA. If shes a sociopath I'll apologize for figuring she gets brown envelopes with DA info in the mail from OSA. Ex-member Tory (Christman) Bezazian adds this comment: Tigger? Well, to me it doesn't
matter whether a person actually IS a part of OSA...or whether OSA is working them. If
they are doing OSA's work, and getting their stats, they are part of the team."Tigger" is most definitely part of their team, whether she knows it or
not". Rx for Tigger? PLONK!
Nick: TheTruth - TheTruth_member@newsguy.com
Nick: Travis Sargent - anti-Psych spammer, general OSA attack lines.
Name: Bill Yaude - "Bill Yaude was and created [the] Travis Sargent [identity]..but
told me when I left, 'I have turned [the] Travis Sargent [identity] over to someone else.'
" Says ex-OSA volunteer, Tory Bezazian, " Bill Yaude may have taken the nick
back."
Nick: Truth Dissemination Division truth@youcanthandleit.org suspected
Mary DeMoss
Virginia: Virginia's product has been a trashed COSI - cos
investigations email list and a trashed fza discussion list. Ye shall know them by their
product, sorry Virginia hope yer A-I steps make you OT someday. If there was just one
"OT" in scientology you wouldn't have been asked to trash those discussion lists.
Bum Tech
Scientology has hired bums before to harass people. We feel they are doing this
on the newsgroup too. They are folks who Scientology considers to be expendable,
hirelings whose loss would not hurt Scientology.
Name: Keith E Wyatt - See gunBunny, above., i was told he was a
security guard in a mall suspected of earning a little extra Christmas money courtesy of
OSA.
Nick: Phil Chitester
- Various OSA personalities. reported to be a homeless guy posting out of a public library
in Colorado.
The Fools
Those who have been fooled by the antics of those above:
Nick: Lex - Also known as 'x', aka 'naamio', aka Sonja Mattson - An
apparently compulsive liar whose intention is to waste everyone's time by making
allegations which have no basis in fact. It is best to killfile her, unless you like to
waste your time responding to her endless train of lies.
Name: Nelson - Apparently an ex-member who acts like, well.... a
Scientologist, complete with the Hubbard-programmed mind virus.
Nick: Russ K (Smashmouth@volcanomail.com)
Contentless Dingbats
More info about OSA by
recent ex OSA volunteer Tory Bezazian
Another effort -- A written plan or project to censor activists by OSA -- is now
suspected. It consists of generation of email spam and postings using key strings from the
online nicks of various anti-Scientology activists, but generated from other ISPs,
sometimes with fake headers to appear to come from us, suspected in hopes of getting our
names included in system spam filters. This data is being collected now. Please send
information concerning suspected incidents to alerma@bellatlantic.net
Some analysis of the online war to expose the terrorist organization DBA Scientology
[ a reply in an effort to quell infighting between critics and activists, almost
entirely egged on by scientology's operatives ]
I think that we are human. If someone does 1000 things to help
expose Scientology, he might make a mistake once in a while.
If someone does, say, only 5 things to expose scientology, it is
statistically easy to bask in one's perfection.
If someone does nothing but criticize those who are trying to expose scientology..but
they are not worth mentioning...
I define 'back channeling' as trying to work out differences and
create a consensus of future profitable course out of a public forum,
so that one does not feed OSA information to know where to pound on
the wedges that delineate differences of opinion or agenda amongst
those trying to expose $cientology
Some folks, appear to define it as "folks plotting against me" and Scientology
will yell conspiracy.
But they can be no conspiracy to prevent a fraud from being perpetrated upon the public.
An individual processed with the aid of the E-meter was said to reach the intended
goal of "clear" and was
led to believe there was reliable scientific proof that once cleared many, indeed most
illnesses would automatically be cured. Auditing was guaranteed to be successful. All this was and is false -- in short, a fraud. " Federal
District Judge Gesell 333 F. Supp. 357;
1971 U.S. Dist
I have tried to not attack effective players in public forum, but even
I have managed to be goaded into doing same occasionally... out of tens
of thousands of posts over 7 years... The few I've posted, in the heat of my disgust,
I invariably regret them, and
sometimes even try to cancel them....
From what I can see, everyone involved in this effort, be it the old
US CAN network which in the end was taken over by Scientology, Renate
Hartwig's efforts, Caberta's efforts, the netizen effort, the web
efforts, the Lisa McPherson Trust, - whomever - each tried or is
trying to do the best they possibly can.
No one involved in this effort is perfect, though I admit,
dealing with Scientology demands an almost monastic lifestyle, in
order to rise above any allegations of misconduct.
In RTC vs Lerma I made many mistakes, but 'hindsite is always
20/20'. In my opinion, after ten years in Scientology, 15 years
recovering from the ordeal, and 7 years of fighting to expose
scientology, any time spent fighting amongst other critics is wasted.
I try to find the good things that each person does, knowing that we
each will make mistakes, and even with all my experience knowing my
enemy, I underestimated Scientology in RTC vs LERMA.
I sometimes wonder if some of the factions are developing
from a jealousy - from an effort to position individuals or groups, as
being THE ONE who gets credit for Scientology's inevitable collapse, a
collapse that I expect to surprise everyone involved in much the same
manner and rapidity that the Berlin wall came down.
I grow weary of Scientology. In order to be bring down Scientology
fastest, we should try to handle our differences privately, even if
it means putting on merely the face of unity, or enduring the catcalls
and accusations of those who will not or cannot understand this.
Each of us involved in this effort has been doing the best we can,
Let us learn from our mistakes and move on.
That is all God expects from us.>>
Arnie Lerma
>> I define "Truth as God's word" thanks to Rev R W Bellamy,
if you have a problem with "God" then consider replacing it with
'common sense' instead.
From a 10 November 1995 filing in RTC Vs Lerma
here are a few highlights from
"Plaintiff's response to defendant Arnaldo Lerma's
Third set of Interrogatories ( Nos 1-18 )
Interrogatory #1:
Identify by name and last known address all persons who played any role in any
cancellation of postings made by anyone else to the
alt.religion.scientology newsgroup including but not limited to, those cancellations
reflected in the documents
produced in this action bearing bates stamp numbers in the ranged R001351 through R001358.
Response to Interrogatory No 1
See RTC's objection to the Interrogatory. Notwishstanding
its objections, RTC responds that the following people have been involved in efforts to
have posters of infringing works and their
access providers remove infringing postings: Helena Kobrin,
Allan Cartwright, and Warren McShane.
------
Interrogatory #8
Indentify the full legal name, last known address, and position held, if any, with
plaintiff, the CSI, the CST, BPI or
any organization affiliated with any of these organizations, of the person who has posted
messages as milne@delphi.com in the
alt.religion.scientology newsgroup
Response to interrogatory #8
Notwithstanding RTC's objection to this Interrogatory, RTC
is informed that this is the internet address of Andrew Milne,
an employee of the Church of Scientology International, 6331 Hollywood Blvd, Hollywood CA,
90028 and that Mr. Milne is the person who posts from this address.
Interrogatory No. 9
Identify the full legal name, last known address, and position held
if any with plaintiff, the CSI, the CST, BPI
or any organization affiliated with any of these organizations, of the persons who has
posted messages as Vera Wallace
Response to Interrogatory No 9.:
Notwithstanding RTC's objection to this Interrogatory, RTC
has no knowledge responsive to this Interrogatory.
Interrogatory No 10:
Identify the full legal name, last known address, and position held
if any with plaintiff, the CSI, the CST, BPI or any
organization affiliated with any of these organizations, of Cory
Brennan, or any person affiliated with any of these organizations
with a name similar to cory brennan
Response to Interrogatory No. 10
Notwithstanding RTC's objection to this Interrogatory, RTC, RTC
believes this to be the name of a staff member of the Church of Scientology of Los Angeles,
located at 4810 sunset Boulevard,
Hollywood Calif 90027
OSA IN HELL, PART 12
Camera pans in from outside FLAG ...down some tunnels..deeper and darker, finally
panning out wide angle into HELL.
There you see David Miscavige hanging upside down from some rafters..yelling,
"MOXEN!!! RENDER!!!! Damn it, get me DOWN!!!:
(of course he forgets he's in HELL.and No one can even hear him, and even if they
could, they just don't care).
Enters the devil: "Dude.what's happenin? You don't like hanging upside down? Well
ya see.here in HELL.every time you Fuck someone else, you get the same thing back. So you
turned www.xenu.net upside down in Google, (or the same there of, requesting it be
removed)..so we thought you should see how it feels.
DM: gags
Devil: Awwww..don't be such a pussy. I thought you were.what was it? "CAUSE OVER
MATTER ENERGY SPACE AND ..(laughing) TIME???" I guess you blew THAT one, huh? And you
~sell~ that shit to people???
Blast the flames boys~!
[ Sound: Blast furnace ROAR ]
DM: Ouch! No noooooooo..I AM cause (as he hangs upside down, flinging his arms out and
around). Well, maybe not now.but I AM.
Devil..laughs, and grabs some pea shooters and starts shooting peas at DM, upside
down."Hey, lets's see who can drive him "PTS" first. Laughs again.
There..got him!
DM: GET ME DOWN!!!
Devil: Remember, you ain't the Commodore here, pal. In fact,,,you're nothin but a
target for us to shoot at, laugh at, and make fun of. Call all your "CMO"...they
ain't here. If they were, we'd hang them up, too!
DM: Writhing around, trying to get down. "Damn it",.I'm sorry Mr. Devil..I am
not damning you..just me hanging here. Never mind..can I have some water?"
Devil: Sure, get "DM" some water. I kind a like you, "DM".you're
such a classic shmuck! Bring "DM" some water..and slide a little something in
it, just so he'll have to do the Narconon program if he ever gets out of here.
Bwahahahahahahahha!
DM: "Ok.can I ask a favor, Mr. Devil?"
Devil: "What, shmuck?"
DM: "Can I call Moxen"?
Devil: Why? You may be able to get away with that outrageous crappy, unjust legal
Bullshit up there, but not down here in HELL. Here? We just hang you upside down, just as
you are here. It's simple. Moxen could care less about you..you should KNOW that. Think
about it, man.has that crap ass phone of yours rung ONCE?"
DM Sniffs.."nope".
Devil: "Exactly. And I checked the other day. Just as you altered Hubbard's
"Standard tech"..they are already whiting you out of things, and re-writing YOUR
crap. Easy come, easy go, babe.
DM ---"Shit. I hate this."
Devil: "well, you should have thought of that BEFORE you and your little miss Ava
went out screwing Xenu.net with Google. The world didn't like that. I got reports from all
over!
Devil: Kicks his feet up, kicking DM around as he twirls hanging.yelling..pissed off.
"well..MR. OT ---- now what?"
DM: "I promise.."
Devil: Laughing ..."forget it pal. You hang there for awhile and feel how others
feel.
Fade to black.
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